Tradition and Revolution Dialogues with J. Krishnamurti

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relationship between the flower and myself, my wife and myself; therefore I am
not related at all. So what am I going to do? I tell myself that I must commit
myself to the family, to the trees, lose myself in devotion to the goal, and work
together. Intellectuals tell me that the goal is more important than the person, that
the whole is greater than the part. So what am I doing?
I love nature, I love my family. So I commit myself to the idea that we must
all work together for an end. What is happening to me? What am I doing?


SW: Isolating myself.


K: No sir, look at what is happening.


A: The fact is I am not related. I struggle to build a relationship, to bridge the gap
between thought and thought. I have got to build this bridge between thought and
thought because unless I do this, I feel absolutely isolated. I feel lost.


K: That is only a part of it. Go into it some more. What is happening to my mind
when it is struggling to commit itself to everything—to family, to nature, to
beauty, to working together?


SW: There is a lot of conflict there, sir.


K: I realize, as A has pointed out, that I am not related to anything. I have come
to that point. Not being related to anything and wanting to be related, I commit
myself, I involve myself in action; and yet the isolation goes on. So what is going
on in my mind?


R: There is a constant struggle.


K: You have not moved away from that point. I am not related, but I try to be
related, I try to identify myself through action. What is going on in my mind?
(pause)
I am moving on the periphery. What happens to the mind when it moves on
the outside all the time?


SW: The mind is strengthened.


A: I am escaping from myself.


K: What does that mean? Do look at it. Nature becomes very important, the
family becomes very important, and the action to which I have committed myself
becomes very important. But what has happened to me? Every relationship has
been completely externalized.
Now, what has happened to the mind that has externalized the whole
movement of relationship? What happens to your mind when it is occupied with
the external, with the periphery?

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