Tradition and Revolution Dialogues with J. Krishnamurti

(Nora) #1

THE BRAIN CELLS AND MUTATION


Dialogue 24

P: We have not dealt so far with what seems to be the essence of your teaching
and that is the problem of time, the silencing of the brain cells and the processes
that operated in Krishnamurti. I am putting the three together because as one
observes the horizontal movement of time, that is the life of K, one sees the boy
born with his tradition of Brahmanism, going through a certain preparation in the
Theosophical Society, being initiated, and writing certain books like The Search
and The Path, books in which enlightenment is looked upon as an end, as a fixed
point. In all these earlier books there is presumed to be a state which has to be
reached, and also a great struggle through centuries towards it. Suddenly a
change takes place in K; he negates salvation, eternity as a fixed point, and so
destroys the horizontal movement of time as such. Now what exactly took place?
If we could understand and see as if through a microscope what happened to
Krishnamurti, if we could examine what happened to his brain which contained
this horizontal movement of time, it might be possible for us to understand time
and mutation in relation to the brain.


K: I understand. Do you understand, sir?


D: Yes, sir. It is a very important question.


K: I wonder if that so-called horizontal movement was not a very conditioned
and superficial movement. The young man repeated what he was taught, and at a
given moment there was a break. You follow?


P: No, I do not. What is meant by a superficial movement of conditioning?


K: That is, the boy accepted, repeated, walked along the path laid down
traditionally and theosophically. He accepted it.


P: All of us do just that.


K: All of us do it in varying degrees. The question is: Why did he pursue that
journey?


P: No. The question is: What was it that triggered that which suddenly made him
say that there is no fixed point?


K: Look at it as if K were not here, as though he were dead. How would you
answer this question? I am here, and so may answer you or may not but, if I were
not here, how would you answer it?

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