many intellectuals in the East and West have come to. They are tethered, and
being tethered, they may expand but remain tied to a pole which is their
experience, their belief.
Now, knowing that thought is energy, thought is memory, thought is the past,
thought is time and suffering, can I answer the question whether thought itself
realizes its own limitations? Thought realizes that any movement of thought is
the movement of consciousness. Consciousness is the content of consciousness,
and without the content there is no consciousness. Now what takes place? Is that
observable or not? I do not invent God.
P: I did not say that. I never said that you invent God. I say that up to this point
your position is materialistic; it is rational and logical; then suddenly you
introduce another element.
K: No. Look at it. Thought itself realizes that any movement it makes is within
the field of time. It is not the thinker who is incapable and, therefore, posits
super-consciousness, a higher self, God or whatever else it can. Then what
happens? Then thought becomes completely silent. This is an observable fact
which can be tested. The silence is not the result of discipline. Then what
happens?
P: Sir, let me ask you a question. In that state the registering of all noise goes on.
What is this machine which registers?
K: The brain.
P: The brain is the material. So this registering goes on.
K: It goes on all the time whether I am conscious or unconscious.
P: You may not name it, but the sense of existence goes on all the time.
K: No, you are using the word ‘existence’, but it is the recording that goes on. I
want to make the difference here.
P: Let us not move away. It is not that all existence is wiped out. It would be, if
thought were to end.
K: On the contrary. Life goes on, but without the ‘me’ as the observer. Life goes
on, the registration goes on, memory goes on, but the ‘me’ disappears.
Obviously. Because that ‘me’ is the limited; therefore thought as the ‘me’ says: I
am limited. It does not mean that the body does not go on, but that the centre,
which is the activity as the self, as the ‘me’, is not. Again that is logical, because
thought says: I am limited; I will not create the ‘me’—which is further limitation.
It realizes it, and it drops away.