K: We have said that thought is the past, thought is the word, thought is
meaning, thought is the result of suffering. And thought says: I have tried to
investigate, and my investigation has led me to see my own limitations. Now,
what is the next question? What is investigation then? If you clearly see the
limitations, then what is happening?
P: Only the seeing.
K: No. Seeing is visual, and the sensory seeing depends on the word, the
meaning.
P: After what we have said, there is only seeing which operates.
K: I want to be clear. You say that there are sensory perceptions. But we have
gone beyond that.
P: When we use the word ‘seeing’, does it describe a state where all the sensory
instruments are functioning?
K: Absolutely.
P: So if there is only one sensory instrument functioning at a time, then it is
tethered to thought; when there is seeing and no listening, that seeing is tethered
to thought. But when all the sensory instruments are functioning, then there is
nothing to be tethered to. That is the only thing one can know. That is existence.
Otherwise there would be death.
K: We agree. Then what is the next question? What is perception then? What is
investigation? What is there to investigate? What is there to explore? Right?
What have you to say? You have all become silent.
P: When thought has come to an end there is nothing more to investigate.
K: When thought comes to an end, what more is there to investigate? Then who
is the investigator? And what is the result of the investigation? Now, is your
question what is there to investigate, or what is the instrument that investigates?
P: One has always regarded investigation as moving towards a point.
K: Is it a forward movement?
P: We are trying to investigate God, truth, but as thought has ended, there is no
point towards which there can be movement.
K: Go slowly; do not say anything categorically. All that you can say is that
there is no movement, no movement forward. A forward movement implies