which it calls God, and worships that. All that is within the field of time. So I
ask: Is there any other energy which is not of time? Shall we go into it?
D: Yes.
K: How do I find out? I reject God, because God is within the field of time. I
reject the super self, the ātman, the brahman, the soul, heaven, for they are all
within the field of time. Now you ask: Is there an energy which is timeless? Yes,
sir, there is. Shall we go into it?
D: Yes, sir.
K: How do I find out? Consciousness must empty itself of its content, the content
which time has created. Must it not?
P: May I ask something? Is the total emptying of consciousness not the same as
seeing the totality of consciousness?
K: It is. Agreed. I do not think I have made myself clear. There is the fact of
totally emptying consciousness; there is another fact which is seeing with the
totality, with all the content—seeing the field of time as a total state; seeing the
whole field of time now. What does that seeing mean?
Is that seeing different from the field of time or, has that seeing separated
itself from the field of time? What we call perception is that seeing which,
separated from the field of time, looks at the field of time and thinks it is free.
D: Right, sir. This perception presupposes a perceiver.
K: We are back to the same thing. So the question arises: What is total seeing? I
see logically, verbally; I comprehend the whole consciousness of man. The
whole of consciousness is its content, and this content has been accumulated
through time, which is culture, religion, knowledge. Whether this content
expands or contracts, it is still within the field of time. It is the movement of
consciousness within the field of time. Consciousness is time itself. What do you
say D, is consciousness time?
D: I have no other instrument but consciousness.
K: I am aware of that. I see that consciousness is time, because the content of
consciousness is consciousness, and the content has been accumulated through
centuries upon centuries.
D: Consciousness is conflict, friction.