K: We know that. How can my mind look at this total field of time, and not be of
the field?—That is the question. Otherwise it cannot look. Total perception must
be free of time. Is there a perception which is not of time? What do you say?
D: That is our question.
K: And if it is not of time, then perception is the life-movement. Perception itself
is the life-movement.
D: Logically that would be so.
A: Can we say that perception itself is the life-movement? I do not know
anything about it.
K: Can my mind which is of time, which consists of accumulated impressions of
experience and knowledge gathered in time—which is the content of
consciousness—disassociate itself from the total field? Or, is there a perception
which is not of time and which therefore sees the totality?
P: A is right. I cannot just posit the ‘other’.
A: The moment I posit the ‘other’, it becomes the god of the Upaniṣads. All that
I can say is: Seeing that all consciousness is within the field of time, I can remain
with it; I am it.
K: You are it. Somebody comes along and tells you that movement within the
field of time is measurable, and he asks: Is there a perception which sees the
totality of consciousness, which is time? He does not tell you whether there is or
there is not. Is there such a perception? That is a legitimate question.
P: May I say something? I see you. I see this room. I see the interiority of my
consciousness. There is no more than that. I can see. It is a concrete thing; seeing
is concrete.
K: Are we wasting time?
P: We are not. We have to be concrete. This is seeing.
K: I understand, P. Here I am sitting in this room. I see the content of the room
and myself in it. ‘Myself’ is the observer who is conscious of the room, the
proportion of the room, of the space of the room. I see this through the
consciousness which is made up of time. The observer and the observed are
within the field of time. That is all. When the observer invents something, that is
still within the field of time. So any movement is within the field of time. That is
all I know. That is a fact. Knowing that, somebody asks: Is there a movement
which is not of time? Have you understood my question?