meaning as the word? Words and explanations are not the things they refer to.
That is the problem.
Now what is taking place in you and in me? Let us discuss that. I use words,
my description is within the framework of words, and the words have space, they
have a point of reference, a common meaning. You accept that; you follow up to
that point and you stop there. You all do this in various degrees. Why? Why do
you stop there? (pause) I think I know.
A: In this relationship of communication between us there has been a very clear
understanding that one must never accept something which one does not
comprehend. The mind has a capacity to manufacture beliefs, to take in what it
would like to believe. I am trying to express the barrier my mind puts up. I say it
will not do to take in anything that I do not understand.
K: Wait. You accept the word, the meaning, the description, the explanation, the
analysis. You go as far as that. Now I tell you, as between two human beings,
that I want to communicate something else over and beyond the word; and you
do not move. I ask myself why. Either you do not consciously want to understand
what I want to communicate beyond the word, because the understanding might
upset you, or you resist because your whole training, heritage tells you: Do not
go near it, do not touch it.
A: That is not so.
K: I am just questioning. This is generally what happens. You listen to the word,
the meaning, the description and the analysis, and you stop there because you
sense that there is a danger to your image. So the image comes in and says: Stop.
Communication then comes to an end.
A: I do not think so.
K: I am putting this tentatively.
P: What happens, Krishnaji, is that one can follow you, move with you, move
within oneself to the point when thought stops, to a point where there is an
ending of thought. At that point when thought ends, there is a total incapacity of
moving in this new field.
K: I am coming to that, P. I want to finish this. I ask myself consciously or
unconsciously: Where is he leading me? I will not move because my image of
myself is breaking down, and my security is threatened. I say that the description
is good enough for me; I agree and stop there. My image of myself is more
important, and so I am satisfied with a verbal understanding.
F: That is not so.