D: In twenty-five thousand years of evolution, of thinking, of speaking and so
on, there is very little change in man; the environment has changed, but
fundamentally there is very little change in man.
K: Yes.
P: I accept what B or D say, but still I am aware that I am. That statement is
where it is.
K: B is saying very simply: Strip man of all the psychological factors, then what
is the difference between animal and man?—Oh, there is a vast difference.
P: The moment you posit a difference, you are investigating something else.
B: Man is aware of himself and the animal is not; that is the only distinction.
K: Let us go back. We want to survive psychologically and also biologically.
D: I say there is something else.
K: We will have to find out. Merely to posit that there is something else has no
meaning.
D: But you say that all other aspects of the human being have ended.
K: When conflict, misery, pain have ended—
P: As also fantasy, wonder, imagination—all that which has made man reach out,
reach in.
K: K said both the outer and the inner.
P: It is the same movement. When you say that all this is to be stripped, what
happens? Is it legitimate to ask that? Can we, in discussion, in going through this,
get the feeling of that stripping, that seeing?
K: We have said that intelligence is beyond consciousness and that when the
mind is stripped of the psychological elements, in the very stripping, there is the
uncovering of this intelligence; intelligence comes into being in the very
stripping. There is biological survival, and there is intelligence. That is all.
Intelligence has no heritage; consciousness has heritage. Within the field of
consciousness, we are caught in becoming; we are trying to become something
within that field. Strip all that. Empty all that. Let the mind empty itself of all
that. In the very emptying comes intelligence. Therefore there are only two
things left: the highest form of intelligence and survival, which is very different