B: The energy of the artist, the whole of his being, operates in one dimension—
there is non-awareness.
K: You are saying that the other fragment is not aware of itself at all.
P: The artist paints, he also has an affair with a woman. He does not see these
actions as fragments.
K: We have gone beyond that. We see that he is fragmented and that he operates
in fragments—one active and the other dormant. In that dormancy there is action
going on—action in a minor key. We see this. Now the question is: Can this
energy—
P: Can it take the sluggish part along and alter its very structure so that there is a
transformation in both?
K: I may be a great sculptor, but a part of me is dormant. You ask: Can there be a
mutation not only in the energy which is dormant but also in that energy which
goes into the making of the sculptor? The question here is: Am I willing to accept
that I may cease to be a sculptor? Because that may happen. When I go into this
problem of a change in the very brain cells, it is possible I may never again be a
sculptor. But it is very important for me to be a sculptor; I do not want to let that
go.
P: Let us leave the sculptor. Here we are in front of you and you say: Look, this
change in the structure of the brain cells may be the ending of all talent, of all
significant action. We accept what you say.
K: That is right. If you are prepared to let go, then what takes place? Which
means, you let go the talent, the fulfilment, the perpetuation of the ‘me’. Now,
when does this mutation in the brain cells through energy take place?
You see, where energy is being dissipated through talent and through other
channels, energy is not completely held. When this energy has no movement at
all then, I think, something happens, then it must explode. I think then the quality
of the brain cells changes. That is why I asked: Why are we always thinking in
terms of movement?
When there is no movement of any kind, inwardly or outwardly—no demand
for experience, no demand for awakening, no seeking—then energy is at its
height. Which means, one must negate all movement. When that takes place,
energy is completely quiet; that is silence.
As we said the other day, when there is silence the mind is transforming
itself. When it is completely fallow, when nobody is cultivating it, then it is
quiet—like the womb.
The mind, which is the vessel of movement, is completely quiet when that
movement has no form, no ‘me’, no vision, no image. In it there is no memory.
Then the brain cells undergo a change. The brain cells are used to movement in