Tradition and Revolution Dialogues with J. Krishnamurti

(Nora) #1

K: We find that analysis and the way of the intellect are not exploration at all. It
is like going partially into a tunnel. What is the quality of the mind if the intellect
is not an instrument of exploration?


A: When the intellect is put aside, the mind has nothing of the past in it.


K: Who is it that has to put aside the intellect? You are back again in the
dualistic process.


A: We see that the intellect is partial.


K: That is why we ask: What is the quality of the mind, of the whole
psychophysical organism, that can explore? What is the quality of that mind
which sees that any partial movement is incomplete and, therefore, will not get
anywhere? It sees that partial seeing is no seeing at all and, therefore, it has
finished with it; it is completely over. The mind then asks: What is the nature of
total perception? And, is it only such a total perception that can examine? For, it
may not need to examine anything at all, because that which has to be examined
is of the partial field of division, analysis and exploration.
I am asking what that total perception is. What is the quality of total
perception?


A: Movement of any kind cannot be total perception.


K: What is total perception?


R: It seems as if there is no instrument, because an instrument belongs to
something.


K: What is the difficulty? When you look out of the window and see these
bushes, how are you looking at them? Usually you are thinking about something,
and at the same time you are looking. I say that you have to look. That is all.
When I look at a painting, I do not say that the painter is so and so; that he is
better than somebody else. I have no measure, I do not verbalize. We said just
now that partial looking is not looking at all. Therefore the mind has finished
with the partial. When I look, I look.


R: The element of habit is so strong in us.


K: The mind which is caught in habit cannot explore. So we have to examine the
mind which is caught in habit, understand habit. Forget exploration, causation,
analysis. Let us tackle that.


A: But whatever you say with your intellect is partial.

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