2019-11-13 The Hollywood Reporter

THE HOLLYWOOD REPORTER 66 NOVEMBER 13, 2019

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don’t know what you can do [about

it]. You create all these different

scenarios in your head about the

worst it can go, and the best it can

go, and you want to strive for this

kind of invisible best that never

will come true. But that striving is

what you run on, and without the

neuroses, without the self-hatred,

without the impostor syndrome, it

would’ve been harder. But I think

it was the character — I just really

related to her.

When have you made choices in

your career as a way to shift expec-

tations of you?

JOHANSSON The climate is so

different now, there’s so many

wonderful opportunities for

women of every age to play all dif-

ferent types of people. When I was

working in my early 20s and even

my late teens, I felt that I got some-

how typecast as hypersexualized,

which I guess at the time seemed

OK to everyone — it was another

time — even though it wasn’t part

of my own narrative. It was kind of

crafted for me by probably a bunch

of dudes in the industry.

But it was really difficult for me

to try to figure out how to get out

of being an ingenue or the “other

woman” because it was never

anything that I had intended.

I had to shake it up a little bit. I

remember thinking at the time

that maybe I needed a different

job in this industry that would be

more fulfilling, because it seemed

like there was nowhere to go. And

so I actually had the opportunity

to do an Arthur Miller play on

Broadway, and it totally reset my

whole way of thinking about how

I could work, and what different

kinds of opportunities could be

available to me.

ZELLWEGER As a young person

starting out, I would get the cutoff-

shorts jobs and the other woman,

the one-night-stand girl, and I did

about three or four of those little

jobs in Texas while I was still at

university. And I thought, “I think

I’m going to not do this anymore

because I know where that road

will go. I don’t know what it’s going

to look like ultimately, but I bet it

would be really hard to get off that

road.” And there is the inevitabil-

ity of your body changing and you

growing older. I want to work in

a way where I can portray women

RENÉE

ZELLWEGER