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The 45th PresidentImpeachment


of Ohio, who had previously raised
concerns about the withheld aid
money, chastised Mr. Trump on
Monday for soliciting foreign as-
sistance for his own political pur-
poses, though he added that he did
not view the conduct as impeach-
able.
“The president should not have
raised the Biden issue on that call,
period,” Mr. Portman told The Co-
lumbus Dispatch. “It’s not appro-
priate for a president to engage a
foreign government in an investi-
gation of a political opponent.”
With the new subpoenas issued
on Monday, the House was trying
to unearth communications and
other records that might shed
light on two enduring questions at
the center of the impeachment in-
quiry: why the White House de-
cided last summer to abruptly
suspend the $391 million aid pack-
age to Ukraine, and whether it
was connected to contemporane-
ous efforts by Mr. Trump and his
personal lawyer, Rudolph W. Giu-
liani, to pressure the country to in-
vestigate former Vice President
Joseph R. Biden Jr. and other
Democrats.
The subpoenas, issued by the
Democrat-controlled House Intel-
ligence Committee, follow similar
demands for documents from the
State Department and the White
House made in recent days. They
gave the agencies until Oct. 15 to
hand over notes, memos and com-
munications related to the aid, de-
liberations over its delivery
within the government, and possi-
ble conversations with Ukrainian
officials about it.
Mr. Trump personally ordered
his staff to freeze the aid just days
before a now infamous July call in
which he asked President
Volodymyr Zelensky of Ukraine to
do him “a favor” and help investi-
gate Mr. Biden and a conspiracy
theory about Ukrainian meddling
in the 2016 election. He lifted a
block on its delivery in September


only under intense bipartisan
pressure from Congress, where
lawmakers view the money as vi-
tal to combating Russia’s armed
aggression in the region.
The White House has denied
that the aid was being withheld to
exert leverage over the Ukraini-
ans, but at least one senior diplo-
mat worried privately that that
was precisely what was happen-
ing, and the administration has
been unwilling to answer ques-
tions about the timeline and ratio-
nale for the decision. Regardless
of the reasoning, the decision to
withhold aid that was allocated by
Congress on a bipartisan basis
prompted confusion and concern
within the State and Defense De-
partments, which were responsi-
ble for delivering the money, as
well as among lawmakers in both
parties who had a hand in allocat-
ing it.
Democrats leading the im-
peachment inquiry in the House
suspect the actions may be relat-
ed. They point to comments in
early September by Vice Presi-
dent Mike Pence, who said pub-
licly that a review of the funds was
based on White House concerns
about “issues of corruption.”
“The enclosed subpoena de-
mands documents that are neces-
sary for the committees to exam-
ine this sequence of these events
and the reasons behind the White
House’s decision to withhold criti-
cal military assistance to Ukraine
that was appropriated by Con-
gress to counter Russian ag-
gression,” read the letters accom-
panying the subpoenas, signed by
Representative Adam B. Schiff,
the chairman of the Intelligence
Committee; Representative Eli-
jah E. Cummings, the chairman of
the Oversight and Reform Com-
mittee; and Representative Eliot
L. Engel, the chairman of the For-
eign Affairs Committee.
The Defense Department had
been anticipating a subpoena.
Last week, the Pentagon’s general
counsel directed all department
heads to collect and turn in all doc-
uments and material related to
military aid to Ukraine.
“As we’ve stated previously, we
are prepared to work with Con-

gress and other relevant parties
on questions related to the issue of
Ukrainian aid as appropriate,” Lt.
Col. Carla M. Gleason, a Pentagon
spokeswoman, said on Monday.
The budget office did not reply
to a request for comment. The

House Appropriations and Budg-
et Committees are reviewing
some documents produced by the
budget office in response to a sep-
arate request the two committees
sent in late September about the
delay in the foreign aid, aides said
on Monday.
As the subpoenas stack up, the
impeachment inquiry is gaining
steam less than three weeks after
House leaders opened it.

The White House has threat-
ened to try to stonewall investiga-
tors’ requests, and Mr. Trump has
mounted a near round-the-clock
defense of himself. But witnesses
have steadily begun to produce
documentary evidence — some of
which has bolstered the initial
complaint — and a spate of pri-
vate witness depositions are ex-
pected in the coming weeks.
The Intelligence Committee
also appears to be close to con-
ducting an interview with the
whistle-blower himself. The pre-
cise format of the meeting,
though, remains a matter of delib-
eration as Democrats seek to pro-
tect the identity of the official —
possibly even from congressional
Republicans.
Whistle-blowers’ disclosures
are protected under the law, and
their identities are typically care-
fully guarded. But Mr. Trump has
forcefully attacked the whistle-
blower, called his actions treason
and demanded to learn his iden-
tity to “meet my accuser.” Demo-

crats fear Mr. Trump’s allies on
their committee could try to feed
details about the official’s identity
to the White House or to the pub-
lic, putting the whistle-blower in
danger.
In addition to logistics, the com-
mittee has been waiting for law-
yers representing the whistle-
blower to receive the requisite se-
curity clearances to participate in
a congressional interview. Mark
S. Zaid, one of the whistle-blower’s
lawyers, said on Monday that two
of the three have now done so and
a third is close to completing the
process, meaning an interview
could be scheduled as soon as late
this week.
It was unclear whether the law-
yers would seek to arrange an in-
terview with Congress and a sec-
ond intelligence official whom
they now represent, and who they
said could corroborate parts of the
whistle-blower’s claims.
The investigating committees
had scheduled a deposition for
Monday with George P. Kent, a

deputy assistant secretary of
state and Ukraine expert, but Mr.
Kent did not show up as planned.
A committee aide said that con-
versations about scheduling a
new date with Mr. Kent were con-
tinuing, and implied that at least
three other witnesses scheduled
to appear this week were also in
doubt.
Mr. Kent is the head of the State
Department’s bureau of Euro-
pean and Eurasian affairs, but he
served until 2018 as a top Ameri-
can diplomat in Ukraine.
The three others are T. Ulrich
Brechbuhl, the State Depart-
ment’s counselor, who the whistle-
blower said listened in on the July
phone call, and Lev Parnas and
Igor Fruman, associates of Mr.
Giuliani, who aided his attempts
to gin up investigations in
Ukraine.
John M. Dowd, a lawyer for Mr.
Parnas and Mr. Fruman, wrote to
the Intelligence Committee last
week that its requests for docu-
ments were “overly broad and un-
duly burdensome” and that its
proposed timeline for document
production and witness inter-
views was unreasonable. He ac-
cused Democrats of trying to
“harass, intimidate and embar-
rass my clients” but did not rule
out that they would cooperate.
The committee aide said that if
Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fruman failed
to comply, they would receive sub-
poenas compelling them to do so
“in short order.”
Still, two key figures from the
State Department were con-
firmed to participate in their
scheduled depositions. Gordon D.
Sondland, the United States am-
bassador to the European Union,
who was deeply involved in Mr.
Trump’s policy toward Ukraine, is
expected to speak to investigators
on Tuesday. And on Friday, they
will question Marie L.
Yovanovitch, the former Ameri-
can ambassador to Ukraine, who
was recalled from her post in May
after she was deemed not to be
sufficiently supportive of Mr.
Trump’s agenda there.

House Widens Impeachment Inquiry to Pentagon and Budget Office


Representative Adam B. Schiff, the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee.

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WASHINGTON — When Ener-
gy Secretary Rick Perry led an
American delegation to the inau-
guration of Ukraine’s new presi-
dent in May, he took the opportu-
nity to suggest the names of
Americans the new Ukrainian
government might want to advise
and oversee the country’s state-
owned gas company.
Mr. Perry’s focus during the trip
on Ukraine’s energy industry was
in keeping with a push he had be-
gun months earlier under the pre-
vious Ukrainian president, and it
was consistent with United States
policy of promoting anti-corrup-
tion efforts in Ukraine and greater
energy independence from Rus-
sia.
But his actions during the trip
have entangled him in a contro-
versy about a pressure campaign
waged by President Trump and
his allies directed at the new
Ukrainian president, Volodymyr
Zelensky, that is at the center of
the impeachment inquiry into Mr.
Trump. That effort sought to pres-
sure Mr. Zelensky’s government
to investigate Mr. Trump’s rivals,
including former Vice President
Joseph R. Biden Jr., a leading con-
tender for the Democratic presi-
dential nomination to challenge
Mr. Trump.
Mr. Perry’s trip raised ques-
tions about whether he was seek-
ing to provide certain Americans
help in gaining a foothold in the
Ukrainian energy business at a
time when the new Ukrainian gov-
ernment was looking to the United
States for signals of support in its
simmering conflict with Russia.
Mr. Trump seemed to suggest
last week that he made a July 25
phone call to Mr. Zelensky, during
which he repeatedly urged his
Ukrainian counterpart to pursue
investigations that could political-
ly benefit him, at the urging of Mr.
Perry. Mr. Trump told congres-
sional Republicans last week that
Mr. Perry wanted him to discuss
the liquefied natural gas supply
with Mr. Zelensky, Axios reported.
That topic did not specifically
come up in the call between the
two leaders, according to the re-
constructed transcript released
by the White House. Text mes-
sages released last week by
House investigators showed that
other officials were suggesting
that the president speak with Mr.
Zelensky to nail down an agree-
ment for Ukraine to move ahead
with the investigations being
sought by Mr. Trump.


At a news conference on Mon-
day in Vilnius, Lithuania, where
he was meeting with Ukrainian
and Polish energy officials, Mr.
Perry said he asked Mr. Trump
“multiple times” to hold a phone
call with Mr. Zelensky.
Mr. Perry’s role in the diplo-
macy between the countries high-
lights the degree to which Mr.
Trump entrusted his Ukraine pol-
icy to an ad hoc coalition of loy-
alists inside and outside the gov-
ernment, especially after the re-
call of the ambassador to Ukraine
amid questions among Mr.
Trump’s supporters about her loy-
alty to the president. It also re-
veals the extent to which Ukrain-
ian politics and national security
revolve around energy supplies.
Mr. Perry’s efforts, while
broadly consistent with American
national security and energy ob-
jectives, intersected with those of
the figures involved in the pres-
sure campaign. Two American
diplomats who attended Mr. Ze-
lensky’s inauguration with Mr.
Perry — Gordon D. Sondland, the
United States ambassador to the
European Union, and Kurt D.
Volker, then the State Depart-
ment’s special envoy to Ukraine
— pushed Mr. Zelensky to publicly
commit to the investigations and

were involved in setting up the
call between Mr. Trump and Mr.
Zelensky.
They appeared to work on the
effort with Rudolph W. Giuliani,
the president’s personal lawyer
and a leading force in the cam-
paign to pressure the Ukrainian
government to pursue the investi-
gations. Two associates of Mr. Giu-
liani also sought changes to the
leadership of the Ukrainian state-
owned gas company, Naftogaz.
Those changes would have re-
quired approval from a supervi-
sory board Mr. Perry sought to
shape.
One of Mr. Giuliani’s associates,
Lev Parnas, pitched a liquefied
natural gas deal to the chief exec-
utive of Naftogaz in early spring,
as The New York Times reported
last month.
The deal was rejected by the
Naftogaz executive.
But Mr. Parnas and a partner
who was also involved in Mr. Giuli-
ani’s political efforts in Ukraine,
Igor Fruman, also sought to install
a presumptive ally as Naftogaz’s
chief executive. They told a gas
executive named Andrey Favorov
that they could use their Ameri-
can political connections to help
him become chief executive of
Naftogaz, suggesting that, if ap-

pointed, he might steer the com-
pany to buy liquefied natural gas
from them, according to Dale
Perry, the managing partner of a
company that competes with one
run by Mr. Parnas and Mr. Fru-
man.
Mr. Favorov, who is a lower-
ranking executive at Naftogaz, re-
jected the proposal, which was
first reported by The Associated
Press.
Dale Perry, who is not related to
the energy secretary, said he
found it “very troubling and dis-
turbing” that Mr. Parnas and Mr.
Fruman boasted that they had
worked with Mr. Giuliani to force
the recall this spring of the Ameri-
can ambassador to Ukraine, Ma-
rie L. Yovanovitch.
But people in Ukraine and the
United States who are familiar
with the conversations said the
Ukrainian government had re-
quested recommendations from
Mr. Perry for Americans who
could advise Naftogaz and the
government on governance re-
forms and liquefied natural gas
transportation.
Mr. Perry recommended four
Americans as possible advisers
on energy issues, according to the
Americans and Ukrainians who
are familiar with the conversa-

tions. Names floated included
Carlos Pascual, a former Ameri-
can ambassador to Ukraine, and
Daniel Yergin, an author and ener-
gy expert who has worked with
Mr. Pascual at an energy advisory
firm.
Mr. Perry, a former governor of
Texas, specifically recommended

two Texas-based investors who
work in Ukraine, Michael Bleyzer
and Robert Bensh, for a supervi-
sory board of Naftogaz, according
to the Americans and Ukrainians
familiar with the conversations.
Mr. Bleyzer, a Republican do-
nor, has proposed gas deals with
Naftogaz, according to people fa-
miliar with his efforts.
Shaylyn Hynes, a spokeswom-
an for the Energy Department,
said in a statement on Monday
night that Mr. Perry “has consis-
tently called for the moderniza-
tion and reform of Kiev’s business

and energy sector in an effort to
create an environment that will
incentivize Western companies to
do business in Ukraine.” As part of
that effort, and at the request of
Mr. Zelensky’s administration,
Ms. Hynes said Mr. Perry “recom-
mended the names of some widely
respected individuals in the
American energy sector, includ-
ing government experts” at the
Energy Department. But, she said
Mr. Perry “did not recommend
these individuals be placed on any
board.”
Nonetheless, the circulation of
the names of Mr. Bleyzer and Mr.
Bensh as possible Naftogaz ap-
pointments led to speculation that
Naftogaz was considering remov-
ing from the supervisory board a
former Obama administration of-
ficial named Amos J. Hochstein.
Mr. Hochstein had worked with
Mr. Biden on his Ukraine efforts
as vice president.
That imbued the discussion
about the board appointments
with political overtones at a time
when Democrats were beginning
to build an impeachment case
around the actions of Mr. Trump
and his team to press Ukraine to
investigate Mr. Biden and his son,
who had served on the board of a
private Ukrainian gas company.
Adding to the complexity of the
situation: When Mr. Zelensky dis-
patched one of his top aides to
Washington in July to meet with
members of Congress and the
Trump administration, and to try
to connect with Mr. Giuliani, some
of the meetings on Capitol Hill
were arranged by a Naftogaz lob-
byist, and attended by a Naftogaz
official.
Naftogaz, until just a few years
ago a money-losing monopoly
stained by corruption, has been
substantially overhauled in recent
years to survive without Russian
gas and to compete in the Euro-
pean Union market.
To comply with European Un-
ion regulations and be able to sell
Ukrainian gas to the bloc’s ener-
gy-hungry countries, the com-
pany has been weaning itself off
subsidies and spinning off its gas-
transmission operations into a
new entity with a guaranteed in-
come of at least $2 billion a year.
Naftogaz officials said that this
company, which will come into ex-
istence in January, and Naftogaz’s
operations storing gas under-
ground could attract American in-
vestments, and that they were at
the heart of what the United
States administration was inter-
ested in.
Naftogaz officials said the
American interest was sufficient
that Mr. Sondland held further dis-
cussions about the planned spin-
off of the transmission operations
in Brussels.

Perry’s Focus on Gas Company During Trip Entangles Him in Ukraine Case


Energy Secretary Rick Perry, left, with Zygimantas Vaiciunas, the Lithuanian energy chief, at a news conference on Monday.

INTS KALNINS/REUTERS

This article is by Kenneth P. Vogel,
Matina Stevis-Gridneffand An-
drew E. Kramer.


Kenneth P. Vogel reported from
Washington, Matina Stevis-Grid-
neff from Brussels and Andrew E.
Kramer from Kiev, Ukraine.


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as possible advisers


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