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EXPERTEXPERT TechTech
I am trying to find a way of
preventing it from rusting in the
future and have come up with
two ideas.
My first idea is to take a brand
new subframe and have it
galvanised. My second thought
was this: has there ever been a
company that has produced a
new stainless steel subframe, or
would this simply be too
expensive to manufacture?
Sam
Galvanising a new
subframe is a possibility
but there could be a couple of
drawbacks. The subframe is
made from fairly light material -
its strength comes from the way
in which the pieces are welded
together - so being immersed in
the huge heat of the galvanising
tank could cause it to warp and
distort. The galvanisers may well
be happy to dip the frame but
we’re sure that they’d only do it
on the understanding that it’s at
your risk.
Galvanising is also quite ‘thick’
so all threads and threaded
holes would have to be cleaned
or retapped afterwards, which
could be tricky.
We’ve never heard of stainless
steel subframes being
manufactured - someone out
there may know different...?
The best way to protect your
new subframe may be to make
sure it is thoroughly painted,
inside and out, with one of the
many excellent rustproofing
paints now on the market. Back
this up with a thorough coating
of underbody wax.
Once the car is back on the
road, make sure the subframe
gets a regular jetwashing to
remove any road dirt and salt,
and once in a while, top up the
rustproofing. If you treat it like
this, there’s no reason why it
shouldn’t last indefinitely.
TANKED UP
I’m going to fit a
new petrol tank to
my Clubman Estate. As
you know, you can see
this from the rear of the
vehicle and it’s very
exposed. What would you
paint it with so it looks
good and is protected
from the elements?
Peter
We’ve owned several
Estates and Vans over the
years, and if memory serves, it’s
usually the top of the tank which
gives out first, thanks to it being
up so close to the boot floor.
This not only means road dirt
and grime can build up in the
gap between (for that, read salt
and moisture), but it’s also a real
condensation trap. The tanks are
also prone to rotting out from
the inside thanks to
condensation, which can only
be made worse by the
increasing use of ethanol in fuel.
New tanks aren’t exactly
cheap, so well worth protecting
well before fitting. There are
loads of great paints around
now - Frost stock some great
products including a paint
which you can pour in and coat
the inside of the tank, should
you wish to go down that route.
A lot of people are using Raptor
at the moment - it’s a tough
underbody seal which gives a
hammered finish - but we have
no personal experience of this.
POR15 is meant to be very good,
and the Buzzweld CIO paints are
well loved by the Land Rover
boys - and they really know how
to abuse their vehicles...
Whatever you decided to use,
giving the fuel tank a long life is
as much down to ongoing care
rather than just that initial
coating. We’d give the top of the
tank and aperture above it a
good coat of rustproofing wax,
and periodically jetwash it off to
prevent a build up of road
debris. Also, when the Mini is not
being used, store it with the tank
full of fuel. This limits damage
from condensation buildup, but
make sure to add some stabiliser
to the fuel to stop it degrading
and separating.
PUMPED UP
My 1993 Rover Cooper
has the boot-mounted
windscreen washer reservoir.
The problem is the screen
wash barely reaches the
bottom of the windscreen
and doesn’t even get close to
the swept area, which will
cause real problems when
it’s time for the MoT. I think I
have tried the obvious
solutions - I cleaned the jets
and when that made no
difference, I changed them
for new ones. I’ve blown the
pipes through with
compressed air and
completely scrubbed out the
reservoir. The electric pump
appears to be working fine.
Is this a common problem
with the later, rear-mounted
washer bottle? Is it worth
trying to upgrade the pump?
James
There might be a couple
of things going on here.
Firstly, you say the pump
appears to be working fine, by
which you mean it whirs when
job and takes some time, but
should restore your washers
to full strength.
It’s worth bearing in mind
that these systems worked
well when new, so if
everything is as it should be,
it should still work fine and
there’s no need for any
upgraded components.
you press the washer switch.
The diaphragm within the
pump may have perished, so
although the motor spins
happily, no fluid is pumped.
Before you replace the
pump, it’s worth checking the
tubing hasn’t become
flattened or twisted,
particularly where it feeds
through the bulkhead. It might
be worth replacing it
completely. This can be fiddly,
but if you use the old tubing to
pull the new through, it can be
done. It’s better as a two man
“Giving the fuel tank a long life is as much down to
ongoing care, rather than just that initial coating”
If painted, a new subframe should last well.
ASKTHE
EXPERT TechTech
I am trying to find a way of
preventing it from rusting in the
future and have come up with
two ideas.
My first idea is to take a brand
new subframe and have it
galvanised. My second thought
was this: has there ever been a
company that has produced a
new stainless steel subframe, or
would this simply be too
expensive to manufacture?
Sam
Galvanising a new
subframe is a possibility
but there could be a couple of
drawbacks. The subframe is
made from fairly light material -
its strength comes from the way
in which the pieces are welded
together - so being immersed in
the huge heat of the galvanising
tank could cause it to warp and
distort. The galvanisers may well
be happy to dip the frame but
we’re sure that they’d only do it
on the understanding that it’s at
your risk.
Galvanising is also quite ‘thick’
so all threads and threaded
holes would have to be cleaned
or retapped afterwards, which
could be tricky.
We’ve never heard of stainless
steel subframes being
manufactured - someone out
there may know different...?
The best way to protect your
new subframe may be to make
sure it is thoroughly painted,
inside and out, with one of the
many excellent rustproofing
paints now on the market. Back
this up with a thorough coating
of underbody wax.
Once the car is back on the
road, make sure the subframe
gets a regular jetwashing to
remove any road dirt and salt,
and once in a while, top up the
rustproofing. If you treat it like
this, there’s no reason why it
shouldn’t last indefinitely.
TANKED UP
I’m going to fit a
new petrol tank to
my Clubman Estate. As
you know, you can see
this from the rear of the
vehicle and it’s very
exposed. What would you
paint it with so it looks
good and is protected
from the elements?
Peter
We’ve owned several
Estates and Vans over the
years, and if memory serves, it’s
usually the top of the tank which
gives out first, thanks to it being
up so close to the boot floor.
This not only means road dirt
and grime can build up in the
gap between (for that, read salt
and moisture), but it’s also a real
condensation trap. The tanks are
also prone to rotting out from
the inside thanks to
condensation, which can only
be made worse by the
increasing use of ethanol in fuel.
New tanks aren’t exactly
cheap, so well worth protecting
well before fitting. There are
loads of great paints around
now - Frost stock some great
products including a paint
which you can pour in and coat
the inside of the tank, should
you wish to go down that route.
A lot of people are using Raptor
at the moment - it’s a tough
underbody seal which gives a
hammered finish - but we have
no personal experience of this.
POR15 is meant to be very good,
and the Buzzweld CIO paints are
well loved by the Land Rover
boys - and they really know how
to abuse their vehicles...
Whatever you decided to use,
giving the fuel tank a long life is
as much down to ongoing care
rather than just that initial
coating. We’d give the top of the
tank and aperture above it a
good coat of rustproofing wax,
and periodically jetwash it off to
prevent a build up of road
debris. Also, when the Mini is not
being used, store it with the tank
full of fuel. This limits damage
from condensation buildup, but
make sure to add some stabiliser
to the fuel to stop it degrading
and separating.
PUMPED UP
My 1993 Rover Cooper
has the boot-mounted
windscreen washer reservoir.
The problem is the screen
wash barely reaches the
bottom of the windscreen
and doesn’t even get close to
the swept area, which will
cause real problems when
it’s time for the MoT. I think I
have tried the obvious
solutions - I cleaned the jets
and when that made no
difference, I changed them
for new ones. I’ve blown the
pipes through with
compressed air and
completely scrubbed out the
reservoir. The electric pump
appears to be working fine.
Is this a common problem
with the later, rear-mounted
washer bottle? Is it worth
trying to upgrade the pump?
James
There might be a couple
of things going on here.
Firstly, you say the pump
appears to be working fine, by
which you mean it whirs when
job and takes some time, but
should restore your washers
to full strength.
It’s worth bearing in mind
that these systems worked
well when new, so if
everything is as it should be,
it should still work fine and
there’s no need for any
upgraded components.
you press the washer switch.
The diaphragm within the
pump may have perished, so
although the motor spins
happily, no fluid is pumped.
Before you replace the
pump, it’s worth checking the
tubing hasn’t become
flattened or twisted,
particularly where it feeds
through the bulkhead. It might
be worth replacing it
completely. This can be fiddly,
but if you use the old tubing to
pull the new through, it can be
done. It’s better as a two man
“Giving the fuel tank a long life is as much down to
ongoing care, rather than just that initial coating”
If painted, a new subframe should last well.