FourFourTwo UK – September 2019

(Nancy Kaufman) #1
14 February 2016 FourFourTwo.com

If you could track down the mug who
told you at a West Ham fans’ forum
that Frank Lampard wouldn’t amount
to much, what would you say now?
Jamie Bonner, via Facebook
Well, that was his opinion at the time...
I never had any doubts about Frank –
I couldn’t say I thought he’d become
what he did, but I knew he’d be a very
good player. The only person I’d ever
seen train as hard as him was his dad.
Every afternoon in the middle of winter,
I would look out of the office window.
It was raining, starting to get dark, and
he’d still be on his own 200 yards away,
doing his sprints, then getting a bag of
balls and shooting, left foot, right foot.
Practice, practice, practice. When a kid
is that determined to become a player,
he’s always going to become a player.
Frank just wanted it so bad.

Will you be offering some advice to
Frank Lampard at Chelsea?
Ryan Worthington, Yeovil
Not really, he’s his own man. He’s a very
bright lad with a great knowledge of
the game. It certainly won’t be through
lack of effort. I did really get him the job
at Derby. I know Derby chairman Mel
Morris very well, and I phoned him up
when Gary Rowett left. I said, “You keep
picking the wrong managers – give it to
Frank.” He said, “No, I need experience.”
I pushed and pushed and said, “Have
a meeting with him. I’m telling you, he’s
fantastic and he will bring so much to
your club.” He said, “Well, I’m in London
tomorrow.” I hadn’t even mentioned it
to Frank at that point, so I phoned him
and said, “Would you be interested in
the Derby job?” He said, “Of course.” So
I set up a meeting for them the next day
at 6pm. Mel called me at 8pm and said,
“I’ve given him the job – I loved him.”

Do you regret leaving Portsmouth
to manage Southampton in 2004?
Sean McCulloch, via Facebook
Yeah. I fell out with Milan Mandaric at
Portsmouth. I’d got into my car to drive
home one day, and suddenly I had four
phone calls from the press saying, “I see
you’ve got a director of football coming
tomorrow?” I said, “No chance, what are
you going on about? I’ve just been with
Milan and we haven’t got a director of
football. We have Jim Smith, Joe Jordan
and Kevin Bond. None of us are young –
what do we need a director of football
for?” The next day, I got to the training
ground and this guy was there, Velimir
Zajec. I went back to Milan, who’d told
me, “No one’s coming in.” We had a row
and I quit. Soon after, I got a call from
Southampton. I lived down here, so why
shouldn’t I work? It was a crazy move.
I didn’t realise the hate between them.

How bad did things get with Pompey’s
fans after you joined Southampton?
Luke Howard, King’s Lynn
Very bad. Non-stop phone calls all day,
leaving horrendous messages. At home,
I’d be outside and the boats that went
past always seemed to be fishermen
from Portsmouth. They would go past,
a big gang of them on their boats going
out through the harbour, yelling abuse...

How big a job was it at Southampton?
Did you believe we’d avoid relegation
in 2004-05?
Terry Couzens, via Twitter
Yeah, for sure. Sometimes you feel like
everything’s gone against you. When
I looked at all the fixtures, every home
game was against a top-half team. In
February, we were 2-1 up at home to
Everton deep into injury time and had
played fantastic. Peter Crouch had the
ball running down towards the corner
flag, and decided to whack it into the
penalty area instead of winning a throw


  • the referee would have blown. They
    kicked the ball upfield, Duncan Ferguson
    flicked it on, Marcus Bent smashed it in


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and the ref blew the whistle. Those two
points would have kept us up on goal
difference. On the last day, we had to
beat Manchester United at home, but
Alex Ferguson is close to Bryan Robson,
who was in charge of West Brom. Man
United were in the FA Cup final against
Arsenal the following week, but he put
his full team out when normally he’d
have rested five or six. West Brom were
playing Portsmouth, and all the Pompey
fans had gone dressed up in West Brom
outfits. They were never going to beat
West Brom. It was an impossible day.

How strange was it when England’s
Rugby World Cup-winning coach Clive
Woodward worked at Southampton?
Tony Jenkins, Llandudno
It was strange, but I had great respect
for him. He had some interesting ideas
that he could have brought from rugby.
I always got on well with him – people
think I didn’t. [FFT: Was he part of your
decision to leave Southampton?] Not at
all. Chelsea beat Portsmouth at Fratton
Park and Milan Mandaric spoke to Frank
Lampard Snr in the boardroom after the

game. Frank said, “You’re struggling,
Milan.” He replied, “Yeah, we’re going to
get relegated.” Frank asked, “Why don’t
you get Harry back?” Milan said, “He
wouldn’t come back, he doesn’t like me
any more.” Frank phoned me and said,
“Milan wants you to go back there –
would you?” I said, “Yes, I would.” That
was how it all started. The following day,
he phoned me, we had a meeting and
I agreed to go back.

What would you say was your biggest
achievement in football?
Fin Palfreyman, via Instagram
Probably winning the Division Three title
with Bournemouth. In 100 years, they
had never been out of Division Three or
Four, so to take them into Division Two
will always be special to me. That put
me on the ladder but I had great times
everywhere, like winning the FA Cup at
Portsmouth, winning the play-off final
with QPR when Bobby Zamora scored in
injury time, getting Portsmouth into the
Premier League in my first season, and
then keeping them up in 2006. Pompey
were almost certainly getting relegated

UPFROnT


Below Lampard: driven
Bottom “I wouldn’t start
on that nutter, Gennaro...”
Right Celebrating FA Cup
joy with Pompey in 2008
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