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Giffords (D-Ariz.), who was shot i n
2011.
“But I don’t underestimate
their e xisting p ower,” he said, add-
ing, “The NRA has made long-
term investments into the presi-
dent and members of Congress,
and until we have different repre-
sentation, their extreme views
will d ominate the debate.”
Although the internal chaos at
the NRA has soured some of its
members, activists said they re-
main unified in their support for
gun rights, particularly in the face
of calls for restrictions by Demo-
crats.
And other pro-gun groups —
some more hard-line than the
NRA — are trying to fill any poten-
tial void.
Alan Gottlieb, founder of the
Second Amendment Foundation,
said he has seen an uptick in
support of more than 20 percent
in recent months. The additional
resources, he said, will allow the
group to file more lawsuits on
behalf of gun owners.
“The single biggest concern
that attendees at our annual con-
ference next month want us to
address is picking up the NRA’s
slack and building a firewall,”
Gottlieb said.
Adam Kraut, a past runner-up
for the NRA board who turned
down a chance to replace one of
the recently resigned board mem-
bers, on Monday joined a different
gun-rights group, the Firearms
Policy Coalition, as its new direc-
tor of legal strategy.
Unlike the NRA’s decision to
wait until the Blumenthal-
Graham legislation is introduced
to take a position, the coali-
tion came out Monday in opposi-
tion to the measure.
“Red flag firearm prohibition
and confiscation laws are uncon-
stitutional, unsound, and danger-
ous policies,” the group said Mon-
day. “Te ll the key DC leaders that
they MUST OPPOSE any attempt
to pass these unconstitutional
laws.”
Gun Owners of America, which
bills itself a s “the only no-compro-
mise gun lobby in Washington,”
also opposes what spokesman
Erich Pratt calls “dangerous red-
flag laws, better known as gun
confiscation orders.”
The group, which has pub-
lished criticism of the NRA on its
website, is promoting a discount-
ed annual membership of $15.
That’s significantly less than the
NRA’s $45 fee, though the group is
offering a discount to $30.
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Se ung Min Kim, Carol D. Leonnig and
Mike DeBonis contributed to this
report.

also played a central role in devel-
oping the group’s strategy. In
the aftermath of the Sandy Hook
massacre, Cox advocated for the
group to take a lower-key ap-
proach amid a wave of national
outrage, although LaPierre ulti-
mately overruled him.
“The question i s, under the cur-
rent turmoil and crisis, when they
speak, will it be different than
statements in the past?” said NRA
member and firearms trainer
Robert Pincus, who is advocating
an overhaul of the organization’s
board. “Has the current crisis
ca used them to reevaluate their
message?”
Gun-control activists, who
have been gaining clout and out-
spent the NRA in the 2018 mid-
term elections, said they wel-
comed signs that the group was
faltering, but remained pragmatic
about prospects for new legisla-
tion.
“The more energy the NRA has
to use to deal with their problems,
the harder it is for them to project
their energy outward,” s aid David
Chipman, senior policy adviser at
Giffords, a group founded by for-
mer congresswoman Gabrielle

cials and others to petition a judge
to bar firearms from someone
they believe is an imminent threat
to themselves or others.
As the NRA’s chief lobbyist,
Cox announced his support for
courts issuing risk protection or-
ders in March 2018, about one
month after a massacre at Marjo-
ry S toneman D ouglas High School
in Parkland, Fla. But the NRA has
opposed such laws in several
states on the grounds t hat they do
not protect due-process rights.
The organization declined to
comment Monday on Blumen-
thal’s p roposal until it reviews the
legislation.
Cox’s abrupt resignation —
along with those of some of his top
aides — has left a void, with some
Republicans lawmakers uncer-
tain whom to talk to at the NRA,
said one senior GOP aide who
spoke on the condition of ano-
nymity to describe internal con-
versations. Cox was a “whisperer
to a lot of Republicans,” t he aide
said.
Cox — who stepped down after
being accused of conspiring with
ousted board president Oliver
North to overthrow LaPierre —

last year, most recently lamenting
that “our great NRA” i s a “victim of
harassment” by the New York at-
torney general, whose office is in-
vestigating the tax-exempt
group’s s pending.
He has also expressed concern
about the ongoing turmoil at the
organization, tweeting in April,
“It must get its act together quick-
ly, stop the internal fighting, & get
back to GREATNESS - FAST!”
Still, some gun-control advo-
cates are seizing on the upheaval
inside the NRA to argue that its
sway on Capitol Hill is weaken-
ing.
“The gun lobby is really crum-
bling; the NRA is imploding,” s aid
Sen. Richard Blumenthal (D-
Conn.), whose home state was
where 20 children were killed at
Sandy H ook Elementary School in


  1. “The vise lock grip of the
    whole gun l obby is breaking.”
    Blumenthal and Sen. Lindsey
    O. Graham (R-S.C.) are writing
    legislation that would offer feder-
    al grants and other incentives for
    states to pass legislation for emer-
    gency risk protection orders.
    Those s tatutes would allow f amily
    members, law enforcement offi-


television address Monday
he blamed “mental illness and
hate” f or the shootings. The only
limits on gun sales he mentioned
were “red-flag laws” that aim to
identify mentally ill people who
should not be allowed to buy fire-
arms.
Focusing on mental illness, not
restricting gun sales, has long
been an NRA talking point in the
aftermath of shootings.
In one of two brief statements
released since the weekend mas-
sacres, the organization said it
“welcomes the President’s call to
address the root causes of the
horrific acts of violence that have
occurred in our country. It has
been the NRA’s long-standing po-
sition that those who have been
adjudicated as a danger to them-
selves or others should not have
access to firearms and should be
admitted for treatment.”
Although Trump has mocked
lawmakers as fearful of the NRA,
he has repeatedly lavished praise
on the organization, whose politi-
cal arm spent $30 million to help
elect him. The president has
tweeted support for the NRA
nearly a dozen times since early

not get another dime o f my m oney
until w e get an accounting.”
That’s a n increasingly common
sentiment among listeners to
Gresham, who has called for NRA
chief executive Wayne L aPierre to
resign.
“Everyone on the gun-rights
side is concerned with what’s go-
ing on at the NRA because they
recognize the vital role it plays in
protecting our civil rights,” the
radio host said in an interview.
“We would like to get through this
turmoil and get to the other side
as quickly as possible so we can
get back to the work of protecting
the Constitution.”
NRA officials did not respond
to requests to interview LaPierre.
Marion Hammer, one of his most
outspoken defenders on the 76-
member board, said the group
would not be distracted from its
core m ission.
“I don’t h ave a crystal ball and I
never make predictions, but the
one thing I can say for certain is
that the NRA will fight to protect
the Second Amendment as hard
as we always do,” said Hammer,
who lobbies for gun rights in Flor-
ida. “Protecting the Second
Amendment comes first, and it
always will.”
After the massacres in El Paso
and Dayton that killed 31 people,
former vice president Joe Biden
and other Democratic presiden-
tial candidates renewed calls for
an assault weapon ban and other
measures to try to curb gun vio-
lence. Grieving residents of Day-
ton shouted “Do something!” at
Ohio Gov. Mike DeWine (R), who
then on Tuesday proposed in-
creasing background checks and
other measures. Outside NRA
headquarters in Fairfax County,
Va., on Monday evening, gun-
control activists held a vigil
and demanded that lawmakers
take action.
But there is little sign of mo-
mentum behind specific propos-
als in Washington that would test
the NRA’s vaunted a bility to mobi-
lize its millions o f members.
A handful of Republican law-
makers on Sunday endorsed
stricter gun controls, but the GOP
largely ignored Democratic de-
mands that the Senate abandon
its summer recess and return to
Washington to address the issue.
Senate Majority Leader Mitch Mc-
Connell (R-Ky.) has refused to con-
sider restrictions the House
passed in February, the first feder-
al legislation of its kind since the
late 1990s.
Although President Trump
called for “strong background
checks” on Twitter, in a national


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Protesters called for new gun laws Monday during a demonstration outside National Rifle Association headquarters in Fairfax County.

“Racism,” he said. “That’s
America.”
The recent Te lemundo poll
showed that 34 percent of Latinos
in Florida, another key swing
state, favor Trump’s reelection.
The shooting and its aftermath do
not appear to have changed many
opinions.
Placing groceries i n her car out-
side a Miami supermarket, Cuban
American Yuri Ricardo, 28, said
she is a Republican but abstained
from voting in 2016 because she
did not like any of the candidates.
“Trump incites the wrong peo-
ple with his rhetoric,” s he said in
reference to the El Paso shooting.
Ricardo, who works for an in-
surance company and has two
sons, 4 and 12, said she owns a
small handgun. But she said gun
control is a top concern, believing
in the right to bear arms but favor-
ing an assault-weapons ban and a
higher legal a ge t o buy firearms.
Her second main concern is
illegal immigration.
“It would be good if there could
be a more organized system in
place with more regulation,” she
said.
Beatriz Hernández, 56, came
from Cuba, where she was a doc-
tor, six years ago. She said Trump
has qualities she likes, and that
his anti-immigrant rhetoric is
only directed toward those who
come to the country illegally and
commit crimes.
“No country has open borders
and allows everyone to enter,” s he
said.
Coming from Cuba, where peo-
ple do not usually carry a firearm,
she said all weapons should be
limited in the United States.
“I am in favor of banning arms
in all countries,” s he said.
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Kim Kavin in Allentown, Pa., Carmen
Sesin in Miami, Lourdes Medrano in
Tucson, and Scott Clement and
Hannah Knowles in Washington
contributed to this report.

“If they put up the wall, t he people
are going to go at it like rabbits
and come underneath.”
Hernandez said Obama was
more concerned with black peo-
ple than “the rest,” and that he
probably wouldn’t vote for an-
other black person for president.
If Obama were up for election, he
would c hoose Trump, unbothered
by what he has said about immi-
grants.
“I’ve lived here for almost 40
years in peace,” he said. “It doesn’t
interest me.”
In s everal swing states, Trump’s
standing among Hispanics,
though small, has remained rela-
tively stable, helped in large part
by an economy that many view as
healthy.
David Callejas, 35, was born in
New York and raised in Colombia.
For the past six years, he has lived
in Allentown, Pa., working in a
bio-tech lab. He did not vote in
2016, but he said he will support
Trump in the next election. Trump
lost Lehigh County in the last
election.
“Ever since he [Trump] got
elected, going to Twitter and bash-
ing people, that doesn’t seem
presidential, but it’s who he’s al-
ways been,” he continued. “I like
the business background he has.
America needs that. We don’t
want to go through another eco-
nomic crisis. The Democrats are
too radical. We don’t want to be-
come Venezuela.”
Waiting for lunch at the road-
side Ta co To wn food truck off
Lehigh Street, Mario Carcamo, an
immigrant from El Salvador, said,
“I believe that most of us believe in
the law in this country.”
Carcamo, 59, holds down mul-
tiple jobs — fixing houses, making
soda for Dr Pepper, working in
sanitation. He has been in the
United States for 15 years.
“Everybody believes that all of
us are illegal, but I respect the law,
I respect everybody,” he said, add-
ing that he believes Trump is us-
ing racist rhetoric.

tears and sick to his stomach. He
told his brother he had a dream
that his mother died in a mass
shooting while they were shop-
ping together.
“He’s still seeing it,” Astorgas
said of the news about the massa-
cre.
But Hernandez, more than
three decades older than Astor-
gas, voted for Trump and plans to
do so again. He was born in Mexi-
co — in Santa Barbara, a small
town in the state of Chihuahua —
and raised in Juarez on the far
bank of the Rio Grande. He m oved
to El Paso almost 40 years ago.
In r etirement, Hernandez cares
about one issue above every other:
the Social Security checks he lives
on. He said the check’s amount
has risen more under Trump than
it did during President Barack
Obama’s time in office.
“It’s incremental, but you can
see it,” he said.
Hernandez said Trump’s words
about immigrants were directed
more at M exico than at p eople like
him. While he is not enthusiastic
about Trump’s proposed border
wall, it does not bother him either.
“It isn’t going to work,” he said.

the vote in 2016.
Astorgas recalled the February
rally here where Trump said,
falsely, that his border wall had
cut down the crime and chaos in
El Paso. Astorgas was angered by
the image the president portrayed
and fearful of what it might signal
to anti-immigrant groups.
“He just went in there and
started blasting away,” he said.
“What he said at the coliseum
probably put a bull’s eye on El
Paso. Like there’s a big immigrant
problem, like we’re letting them in
through the border.”
Astorgas said he also does not
understand why Trump has cho-
sen Latinos f or such criticism.
“Not all immigrants are rap-
ists,” he said, mentioning his an-
cestors who came to Te xas a few
generations ago. “They weren’t
rapists. They c ame to work.”
The shooting has left him and
his family d isturbed and insecure.
He hunkered down in the house
with his three sons from Saturday
to Sunday, h is gun nearby.
“We just decided we’re not leav-
ing,” he said.
His 8-year-old son, the young-
est, woke up Monday morning in

to embrace a traditional Republi-
can message of self-reliance and a
younger group dismayed by the
president’s broad disparagement
of Latinos.
Astorgas and Hernandez are
two end points o n the spectrum.
Trump won Te xas in 2016 but
lost in El Paso County to Hillary
Clinton by more than a 2-to-1 mar-
gin. His visit to El Paso in Febru-
ary still resonates with many Lati-
nos here for the image of lawless-
ness along the border that Trump
described, one that few who live in
El Paso recognized.
Wednesday’s visit comes as the
president’s 2020 campaign effort
has begun to focus on Latino vot-
ers in several key swing states,
where their support will be key to
his reelection. In places such as
Pennsylvania and Florida, which
Trump won narrowly in 2016, La-
tino voters who support the presi-
dent are in a significant minority,
but enough may back Trump for
him to hold those states.
A recent Te lemundo poll, for
example, found that a quarter of
Te xas Latinos support his reelec-
tion — a figure that mirrors his
national approval rating among
adult Hispanics, a ccording to Gal-
lup. That figure has remained
largely constant since his elec-
tion, with an occasional dip and
rise again, suggesting there is an
immovable core of Latino voters
who support him, albeit a clear
minority.
“Those who haven’t been shak-
en by that are hardly going to be
shaken by what happened” i n El
Paso, said Pablo Pinto, a professor
and director of the Center for
Public Policy at the University of
Houston, referring to Trump’s
past criticism of Hispanics. “Peo-
ple who had voted Republican
will continue voting Republican
and tend to buy into this rhetoric
that getting into the country ille-
gally shouldn’t b e rewarded.”
Here in El Paso County, w here 8
in 10 of its 840,000 residents are
Latino, Trump won 26 percent of

BY SCOTT WILSON
AND ELI ROSENBERG

el paso — Manuel Astorgas did
not vote for President Trump in
2016, but he said he viewed the
president with an open mind.
Trump’s message about the im-
portance of work and criticism of
government handouts resonated
with Astorgas.
But the president’s negative
characterization of Latinos even-
tually turned him off, Astorgas
said. And Trump’s p lan to visit this
city Wednesday in the aftermath
of one of the nation’s worst acts of
violence against Latinos seems to
Astorgas like a bad idea.
“It just brings in hate,” said
Astorgas, a 46-year-old employee
of an auto-parts store. “We are
seeing things that we hadn’t seen
in a long time. We thought we
were finished. We thought we
were a bove that.”
Across this largely Hispanic
city in far West Texas, Trump’s
visit was viewed with a mixture of
anger and trepidation in the com-
munity allegedly targeted by a
21-year-old man intent on killing
as many Hispanics as possible.
But not everyone opposed the vis-
it.
The president still has support
from people such as Manuel Her-
nandez, an 80-year-old who has
lived half his life in El Paso and
voted for Trump in 2016.
“A lot of bad things are ex-
pressed against Latinos,” said
Hernandez, speaking in Spanish.
“But we don’t k now if it’s t his [that
inspired the gunman] or not.
There are a lot of supremacist
groups, white supremacists, that
don’t l ike minority groups — black
people, Latinos. It’s not the fault
of the president, because this has
always been around, from way
back in time.”
The political differences
among Hispanics here are often
generational and ideological, a
contrast between longtime Mexi-
can American citizens who tend


In El Paso aftermath, Trump’s Latino backers say they’re sticking with him


MICHAEL ROBINSON CHAVEZ/THE WASHINGTON POST
Carlos Santos talks to police Sunday near the scene of the mass
shooting in El Paso, where 22 people were killed and 2 4 injured.
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