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from its host, Michael Barbaro, reflecting on the show. On some Saturdays in this space,
we highlight the most recent newsletter.For weeks, our team has talked about
trying to interview Dr. Anthony Fauci, the
nation’s top infectious disease specialist,
about the coronavirus pandemic. He’s a
unique figure in this crisis: a 30-year stu-
dent of global epidemics, from H.I.V. to
H1N1; a member of President Trump’s
coronavirus task force; and one of two
doctors, along with Dr. Deborah Birx, as-
signed by the White House to explain this
emergency to the public through daily
briefings and interviews.
Negotiations to schedule a time with him
were complex. They started in earnest then
petered out. His staff expressed interest
but then told us he wasn’t available. Late
last week, producer Robert Jimison tried
again. This time, his staff said yes. They
would grant us 45 minutes on Wednesday.
Structuring an interview like this is
inherently complicated. We thought of Dr.
Fauci as somebody who could demystify
this moment and explain what the next few
weeks of the pandemic might look like. But
just as much, we saw him as a top adviser
to the president, someone who could an-
swer for the actions taken — or not taken
— to contain and confront the coronavirus
so far. The interview, we concluded, would
need to toggle between those goals: expla-
nation and accountability.
We treated the first half of the interview
as a chance for Dr. Fauci to recount when
and how he knew the coronavirus would
become a major public health crisis, and
the decisions that have led the United
States to this grim moment, when he now
estimates that at least 100,000 Americans
will die from the deadly pathogen.
We asked Dr. Fauci about when and why
the government decided to ban interna-
tional travel, ramp up testing, and issue
guidance on social distancing and stay-at-
home orders. A few listeners challenged
this line of questioning.But we felt it was important to pose these
questions to a top federal scientist, one who
has profoundly shaped the thinking behind
these policies — and who told us he knew
this would be a global health catastrophe in
early January, well before the United States
had begun to act.
In the second half of the interview, we
wanted to understand his role and respon-
sibilities — a day in the life of Dr. Fauci as
he navigates the pandemic. He told us
about 4 a.m. wake-up times, long hours
with the president and the mounds of data
he sifts through.
We also wanted to explore how and when
federal officials like Dr. Fauci would know
when the crisis was over, and whether they
had the tools in place to make that determi-
nation. He surprised us by saying that the
coronavirus would remain a threat until a
vaccine was widely available — a year from
now, at least.
“I believe that in a few months, hopefully,
that we’ll get it under control enough that it
won’t be as frightening as it is now,” he told
us. “But it will not be an absentthreat. It
will be a threat that is there.”
Finally, we turned a bit philosophical,
asking how Dr. Fauci hoped both he and the
country would be remembered after this
pandemic was over. His answer struck us
as the right way to end the episode:
“You know, I just would hope that I’m
remembered for what I think I’m doing, is
that I’m doing the very best that I possibly
can,” he said. “I’ve been a public servant all
my life. And this is right now, you know,
kind of almost the epitome of being a public
servant, of trying to mitigate against a
terrible disease that afflicted us. You know,
it came out of nowhere and we need to deal
with it and we will deal with it.”Inside The Times
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