A2 N THE NEW YORK TIMES, MONDAY, JUNE 29, 2020
On last Wednesday’s episode of “The
Daily,” Times reporters spoke with three
women — Nicolle Nordman, Analía Ro-
dríguez and Nakitta Long — about their
experiences living with unemployment as
a result of the coronavirus pandemic.
Those interviews were conducted a few
weeks ago. Below, our reporters shared a
little about the women they met, how they
are holding on and what they have been
doing in the time since.‘I have no idea what’s next’
Ben Casselman, an economics reporter,
met Nakitta Long, 44, who was laid off from
an automotive manufacturing facility in
North Carolina.
Back in March, when I first began speak-
ing to people who had lost their jobs in the
pandemic, I heard the same questions over
and over again: “How am I going to pay
rent? How am I going to feed my family?
What will I do if the bank takes back my
car?”
By the time I talked to Nakitta Long, in
late May, those questions were much less
common. The federal government had
stepped in with billions of dollars in aid,
including $600 per week in unemployment
benefits for jobless workers. While the
system was plagued with problems —
delays and bureaucratic hurdles that kept
many waiting for weeks — tens of millions
of people like Ms. Long are now relying on
the aid as a lifeline.
That lifeline expires at the end of July,
however. Which means these days I’m
facing a new question: “What happens if
the aid runs out before the crisis passes?”
Ms. Long is living the answer. Still out of
work, she is caring for her 3-year-old,
considering whether to eliminate her car
payment and worrying about her state and
federal unemployment support lapsing.
“I am not getting much sleep. I have no
idea what’s next,” she said. “So many
people are mentally and emotionally
checking out, and I do not want to be one
of those people.”
She said she had been seeking profes-
sional counseling to address her mental
health, which had been helping. “I know
I’ll be able to bounce back. I’m just not
sure how long that will take and what
sacrifices I will have to make.”Calling the unemployment office... for 11
weeks
Sabrina Tavernise, a national correspon-
dent, gave an update on Analía Rodríguez,
45, who lost her job as an airport bartender
in Florida and was forced to pawn her
wedding ring.
Analía Rodríguez met her husband,
Gyula Fabian, in 2004. He was an actor
visiting from Hungary. She was a manager
at a fitness center that he frequented.
Ms. Rodríguez’s husband was in a motor-
cycle accident last year, in which he sus-
tained brain injuries and lost a leg. He had
taken care of her for many years, so she
felt it was her turn to do the same.
When the pandemic hit, Ms. Rodríguez
was laid off. After 11 weeks without any
income, she was finally able to secure
unemployment benefits. Now, she is be-
hind on her health insurance, trying to
figure out how to pay for her husband’s
surgery and a $500 deductible for an M.R.I.
She is not sure how they will get the
money.Job hunting after nearly two decades at
the same company
Julie Creswell, a business reporter, gave
an update on Nicolle Nordman, 53, who
lives in Illinois and was laid off from Weight
Watchers over a roughly three-minute Zoom
call.
The tip that landed in my inbox was
more than a little intriguing: “Weight
Watchers Mass Layoffs on Conference
Call.” That’s how I was introduced to Ni-
colle Nordman. In our first conversation, it
was clear she was still somewhere be-
tween shock and anger at being abruptly
fired by the company where she had
worked for 18 years. Now, Ms. Nordman is
sending out job applications and spends
most days worried about her children.
“It makes me nervous,” she said, think-
ing about her children in states where
coronavirus cases were on the rise, like
California, where her immunosuppressed
daughter lives. Ms. Nordman is financially
supporting her daughter, who cannot work
during the pandemic. “She is the one that
keeps me awake at night worrying,” she
said.Inside The Times
THE STORY BEHIND THE STORYNicolle Nordman was one of three women profiled in an episode of “The Daily” last week.LUCY HEWETT FOR THE NEW YORK TIMESIn the Time Since an Interview
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