Hellenistic Philosophy Introductory

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  1. Therefore he says that we ought not to tolerate or listen to men
    who are wicked or lazy and guilty and shameless, who when convicted
    of misdeeds take refuge in the necessity of fate as in the asylum of a
    religious sanctuary and say that their worst misdeeds should be laid at
    the door, not of their own recklessness, but of fate.

  2. And that most wise and ancient poet [Homer] was the first to make
    this point, in the verses which follow:


It makes me furious! how mortals blame the gods! For they
say that their troubles come from us; but they incur pains on
their own beyond their allotment, because of their
wickedness.


  1. And so Cicero, in his book entitled On Fate, when he said that
    the question was very obscure and complex, says also in these words that
    even the philosopher Chrysippus did not get clear on the problem:
    "Chrysippus, sweating and toiling to discover how he might explain that
    everything happens by fate and yet that there is something in our own
    power, gets tangled up in this manner."


Cicero On Fate 39-44 (SVF 2.974) [11-90]



  1. Since there were two opinions of the older philosophers, one
    belonging to those men who believed that everything occurred by fate
    in such a way that the fate in question brought to bear the force of
    necessity (this was the view of Democritus, Heraclitus, Empedocles and
    Aristotle), the other of those who held that there were voluntary motions
    of the mind without fate, Chrysippus, it seems to me, wanted to strike
    a middle path, like an informal arbitrator, but attached himself more to
    the group which wanted the motions of the mind to be free of necessity.
    But while employing his own terms he slipped into such difficulties that
    he wound up unwillingly confirming the necessity of fate.

  2. And, if you please, let us see how this occurs in the case of
    assent, which we discussed at the start of our discourse. For the older
    philosophers who held that everything occurred by fate said that it
    occurred by force and necessity. Those who disagreed with them freed
    assent from fate and denied that if fate applied to assent it could be free
    of necessity and so they argued thus: "if everything happens by fate,
    everything occurs by an antecedent cause and if impulse [is caused], then
    also what follows from impulse [is caused]; therefore, assent too. But if

  3. Odyssey 1.32-34.

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