Hellenistic Philosophy Introductory

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Academic Scepticism 267


Cicero Academica 2.28 [III-6]
Hence arose the demand made just now by Hortensius, that you
[sceptics] should at least concede that the wise man has grasped that
nothing can be grasped. But Antipater [the Stoic] demanded the very
same thing, and said that it was consistent for him who affirmed that
nothing could be perceived to say that [at least] this one thing could be
perceived, even if other things could not. Carneades argued against him
with greater acuity: for, he said that, far from being consistent, it was
in fact totally self-contradictory. For he who denies that there is anything
that can be grasped makes no exceptions; therefore, it is necessary that
not even [the claim that nothing can be grasped] can in any way be grasped
and perceived, since it has not been excepted [from the general claim].

Cicero Academica 2.40-42 [III-7]



  1. But now let us look at the opposing arguments usually advanced
    by the other side [i.e., the Academics]. But first you can become ac-
    quainted with what are, as it were, the foundations of their entire system.
    So first of all they put together a sort of craft dealing with what we call
    presentations, and they define their character and types, and in particular
    they [define] what sort of thing can be perceived and grasped, at as great
    a length as the Stoics do. Then they elaborate the two propositions which,
    as it were, constitute this entire investigation. [1] When there are things
    which are so presented that other things can be presented in the same
    way, and that there is no difference between [the two presentations], it
    is not possible that the one group should be perceived and the other not.
    [2] However, [they say that] there is no difference, not just if they are
    of the same quality in all respects, but even if they cannot [in fact] be
    distinguished [by the perceiver]. When these premisses are laid down,
    the whole issue is contained in one argument; and the argument is put
    together as follows. Some presentations are true, some false; what is false
    cannot be perceived; but every true presentation is such that there can
    be a false presentation of the same quality; and with presentations which
    are such that there is no difference between them it cannot happen
    that some can be perceived while others cannot; therefore, there is no
    presentation which can be perceived.

  2. They think that of the premisses they assume in order to generate
    the desired conclusion, two will be granted to them (and in fact no one
    does reject these two); these are, [first] that false presentations cannot
    be perceived, and the other is that with presentations between which
    there is no difference it is not possible that some should be such as to

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