7has been pop u lar ized by the or ga nized minority
currently dominating the discourse. This is what
I was really trying to argue in the Intelligence
Squared debate, but the motion forced me to take
a side: war or peace. I chose peace.Harris I understand. My interest in recalling that mo-
ment is not to hold you accountable to your orig-
inal answer to me— and it may be t hat your t hinking
has evolved to some degree. But our conversation
broke down quite starkly at that point. I don’t re-
member how we resolved it.
Nawaz (laughing) I don’t remember that we did re-
solve it.
Harris Well, let’s proceed in a spirit of greater
optimism than may seem warranted by our fi rst
meeting, because we have a lot to talk about. How-
ever, before we dive into the issues, I think we
should start with your background, which is fasci-
nating. Perhaps you can tell our readers why you’re
in a position to know so much about the problems
we’re about to discuss.
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