16my master’s degree in po liti cal theory at the London
School of Economics, I cofounded and went on to
chair Quilliam, the world’s fi rst counter- extremism
o r g a n i z a t i o n.The Scope of the Prob lemHarris In your work, you make a distinction between
“revolutionary Islamists” and “jihadists.” I think we
should defi ne these terms. I would also like to know
how you think public opinion is divided in Muslim
communities. I picture several concentric circles:
At the center are groups like the Islamic State,^5 al-
Qaeda, al- Shebab, Boko Haram, and so on. Their
members apparently wake each morning yearning
to kill infi dels and apostates. Many of them also
seem eager to be martyred in the pro cess. Most of
- We have chosen to use the name “the Islamic State”
without prejudice, simply because that is what the group
calls itself, and this is increasingly how it is referred to in
the media. Our usage is not a judgment about the validity
of this group’s claims to represent the “true” Islam or to have
established a caliphate. This book is itself a broader exami-
nation of the validity of such claims.
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