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Descartes: A Biography
However, he would be willing to discuss the issue orally with Arnauld, so
that no record of his views would become public.
Since the Council of Trent itself did not wish to explain how Christ’s body is present
in the Eucharist, and since it wrote that ‘it was present with a type of existence that
wecan scarcely express in words’, I would be afraid of being accused of temerity
if I dared to decide anything about that question. Besides, I would prefer to explain
myconjectures orally rather than in writing.
Arnauld replied that he could not meet Descartes personally for such
atete-ˆ a-t` ete, since he was ‘out of the city’ (v.ˆ ), but that he would
take advantage of the opportunity to raise his questions in letters. He had
to accept Descartes’ reluctance to write to him about Christ’s presence
in the Eucharist. However, he tried once more to persuade his cautious
correspondent to say something about the topic in a letter.
Apart from the request to clarify what he meant by an intellectual
memory – an obscure argument that seemed to hinge on the fact that
wesucceed in remembering things of which we do not have images and
therefore, presumably, cannot have memory traces as physical events in
the brain – Descartes replied to a number of other queries from Arnauld.
One concerned the way in which mind and body interact, and this pro-
voked one of the clearest statements by Descartes of the reality of this
interaction, even if he acknowledged that he did not understand it.
However, the most certain and evident experiences – rather than any reasoning or
comparison with other things – shows us daily that the mind, which is incorporeal,
can move the body. This is one of those self-evident things that we make obscure when
wetry to explain it by reference to other things.Nonetheless, I shall use an analogy
here. Most philosophers who think that the heaviness of a stone is a real quality, which
is distinct from the stone, believe that they understand well enough how that quality
can move the stone towards the centre of the earth, because they think they have a clear
experience of it. However, I am convinced that there is no such quality in nature and,
consequently, that there is no true idea of it in the human mind. Consequently, I think
that they use the idea they find in themselves of an incorporeal substance to represent
this heaviness to themselves. Therefore, it is no more difficult for us to understand how
the mind moves the body than for them to understand how such a heaviness moves a
stone downwards. (v.–)
Descartes exploits the comparison further by arguing that the mind may
be described as corporeal if we understand the term to mean ‘whatever
belongs to a body’, because the mind is adapted for being united with the
body. However, if we describe as ‘corporeal’ only what has the nature of a