[ 4 ] “Because they say smooth and elegant things based on the Word
about these subjects, especially about the good news of the gospel, the
actions of the Holy Spirit, and salvation, they appear to the people who
hear them to be people of beauty and of greater wisdom than anyone else
in the world. That is also why you saw that they were given luxuries and
expensive items by the boys and girls sitting on the seats in the boats.
“These then are the people you saw represented as sea turtles. In your
world, they are hard to differentiate from others except for the fact that
they think they are wiser than everyone else and laugh at others—even
people who have a similar view of faith as their own but don’t share in
their mysteries. They wear a particular insignia on their clothing that
they use to identify themselves as set apart from others.”
[ 5 ] The person speaking with me said, “I am not going to tell you
what they feel on the other topics related to faith: predestination, free
choice, baptism, and the Holy Supper. They don’t make their views on
these topics public, but we in heaven know what they are.
“This is what they are like in the world. After death no one can speak
anything except what he or she really thinks. Therefore because they then
cannot help speaking the insane things they think, they are considered
insane and are thrown out of the communities they are in. Eventually
they are sent down into the pit of the abyss mentioned in Revelation 9 : 2.
They become mindlessly earthly spirits. They look like Egyptian mum-
mies. A callus develops over the interiors of their mind, because even in
the world they put a boundary around them.
“There is a hellish community of these people right next to the hell-
ish community of Machiavellians. They often go from the one commu-
nity to the other—they call each other colleagues—but they leave
because there is a difference between the two communities: they them-
selves have some religious spirit based on the act of justification by faith,
but there is no religious spirit among the Machiavellians.”
[ 6 ] After seeing them being thrown out of the communities they had
been in and being gathered together to be sent down, I saw a boat with
seven sails flying through the air. In it there were captains and sailors
wearing purple robes. They had magnificent laurel wreaths on their caps.
They were shouting, “Look at us in heaven! We are doctors decorated
with purple and more laureled than all the rest! We are the wisest of all
the clergy in Europe!”
I wondered what this could possibly be. I was told that these were the
arrogant pictures and mental images called fantasies on the part of the
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