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Pentagon press secretary John Kirby; Sen. Ted Cruz (R-
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9 a.m. STATE OF THE UNION (CNN)
Secretary of State Antony Blinken; Finnish President Sauli
Niinistö; Colorado Gov. Jared Polis (D).
9 a.m. THIS WEEK (ABC, WJLA)
Defense Secretary Lloyd Austin.
9 a.m. WHITE HOUSE CHRONICLE (PBS, WETA)
Steve Odland, president and CEO of The Conference
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on Combating Synthetic Opioid Trafficking, discusses
America’s opioid and addiction crisis.
10:30 a.m. MEET THE PRESS (NBC, WRC)
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Ukraine; San Francisco Mayor London Breed.
10:30 a.m. FACE THE NATION (CBS, WUSA)
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Markarova; Russia’s ambassador to the U.S., Anatoly
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Holocaust isn’t about race”
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Burr, who was censured by
the North Carolina Republicans
for his vote, thinks that Trump
would have maintained the
same level of support among
base voters, regardless of the
outcome of the Senate trial,
although Burr blames the media
for focusing so much on the
former president.
Yet even Trump supporters in
the Senate are careful not to
praise his behavior last year.
Sen. Rick Scott (R-Fla.) cited
Trump’s departure from office as
the reason for his vote to acquit
Trump.
“You can’t impeach a prior
president,” Scott said. As
chairman of the National
Republican Senatorial
Committee, Scott does not want
GOP candidates re-litigating the
2020 election this summer and
fall.
“The election’s going to be
about Biden. It’s a referendum
on what he’s done,” Scott said.
Scott’s words are a small
consolation to the managers,
akin to Senate Minority Leader
Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.)
delivering a fiery speech
blaming Trump for the riot after
he voted to acquit. The
managers had essentially proved
their case, but didn’t win the
vote.
Raskin always believed the
case was so strong that his goal
wasn’t just 67 votes. “We’re going
for all 100,” he told the other
managers, who included Reps.
Diana DeGette (Colo.) and
Joaquin Castro (Tex.).
Raskin acknowledged that he
stayed up deep into the night for
weeks after, playing out different
scenarios of how the group
could have presented the case
and won the verdict. But his
ideas — asking senators to not
sit in partisan sides of the aisle,
requesting secret ballots on
votes — were brushed aside by
allies in the Senate who warned
him of not wanting to look like
“Professor Raskin in the Senate.”
Just after the final votes, Dean
gave everyone a gift: a flask with
the Capitol logo on it.
Del. Stacey E. Plaskett (D), a
former prosecutor who is the
nonvoting delegate from the
Virgin Islands, poured some
rum. They toasted their effort.
“What an honor,” Dean
recalled. “What an extraordinary
honor to be part of that team. I
believe we did it pretty damn
well.”ransacked the Capitol.
She noted the actions of Rep.
Jason Crow (D-Colo.), who
served three tours as an Army
Ranger in Iraq and Afghanistan,
helping stunned lawmakers
during the siege inside the
House, and Rep. Raul Ruiz (D-
Calif.), an emergency room
doctor with expertise on mental
trauma, counseling members in
real time when they sheltered in
a secure location across the
street.
Dean wishes congressional
officials had left intact some of
the damage done by the violence
— a shattered window or broken
benches — as a reminder to
visitors to the Capitol for years
to come of what transpired
Jan. 6.
Raskin views his select
committee work as a
continuation of where the
managers left off last February.
The managers focused “on one
guy and one crime,” Raskin
explained, but the select
committee is examining the
“whole sequence of events” and
all the players.
A year ago, the managers
exposed just one phone call
involving Trump during the
siege, from House Minority
Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-
Calif.), pleading for him to call
off his supporters. “Now we
know there was nothing at all
unique or anomalous about
that,” Raskin said, as the
committee has revealed many
similar calls and texts from
Trump allies.
These managers almost to a
person believe that Trump is
weaker now, even if so many
House Republicans line up
directly behind him, as more
information comes out about his
actions in the run-up to the
Capitol attack and his personal
finances face heavy scrutiny in a
New York investigation.
Neguse and Cicilline believe
that, had another 10 or 15
Republicans voted to convict in
the Senate, Trump’s support
would have cratered because he
would have been barred from
the presidency. “There would
have been a significant shift in
public opinion,” Neguse said.
Senate Republicans, even
those who oppose the ex-
president, aren’t so sure.
“No,” said Sen. Richard Burr
(R-N.C.), who voted to convict,
said as he held back some
laughter. “I think it would’ve
just increased the arsenal ofout the evidence in a compelling
narrative that brought along
seven Senate Republicans,
falling 10 votes shy of the 67
needed to convict and prevent
Trump from running for office
again.
“My only regret is that 10
Republican senators did not join
Richard Burr, Bill Cassidy, Susan
Collins, Lisa Murkowski, Mitt
Romney, Ben Sasse and Pat
Toomey in doing the right
thing,” Neguse said, naming the
seven Republican senators who
voted to convict.
A year later, the managers are
largely involved in some work
related to the insurrection.
Neguse is part of a team that is
negotiating changes to the
Electoral Count Act, the 18 77
relic that Trump tried to exploit
by pressuring Vice President
Mike Pence to reject certain
states’ electors in hopes of
overturning the election.
Neguse disagrees with the
many Democrats who want to
update that law only after
passing a much broader
legislation designed to protect
voting rights — which has
remained deadlocked in a 50-
Senate, where every Republican
has filibustered the package.
Without changes to the
Electoral Count Act, Neguse
said, there could in the near
future be a repeat of the effort to
overturn the election, only this
time it might be successful. “We
have to reform the Electoral
Count Act. It’s crucial that we
get it done,” he said.
Cicilline is pushing his
Democratic colleagues to move
beyond talking about the
legislative agenda ahead of the
November midterm election,
warning that they need to have a
sharper focus on linking today’s
Republicans to Trump.
“We have a responsibility to
call that out. This is dangerous.
We cannot ignore the danger of
this Republican Party,” he said,
making clear that Biden can
largely try to stay above the fray.
“He doesn’t have to be in these
daily battles. It’s on us to
correctly characterize what
they’re doing.”
Dean has a different personal
task that she first brought up
during the Democratic caucus’s
conference call a day or two
after the attacks. “We also have
to catalogue the good, and I fear
we haven’t done that,” she said
referring to the bravery shown
by many members as riotersLast month, Rep.
David N. Cicilline
(D-R.I.) sent eight
colleagues a gift
to mark the bonds
they forged in the impeachment
trial of Donald Trump after the
Jan. 6 insurrection at the
Capitol.
“Chance made us coworkers,”
read the message on a candle
from Cicilline, noting that “crazy
psycho” events made “us
friends.”
Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.), when
posting a picture of the gift,
clarified they were the second
Trump impeachment managers
because “the former president
was that bad” and was
impeached twice.
A year later, the nine
impeachment managers have
remained in close contact.
They’re part of the “strange
club,” as Rep. Madeleine Dean
(D-Pa.) described it, one of just
four sets of House members to
ever try a presidential
impeachment case in the Senate.
This group has largely
returned to rank-and-file status,
going back to their normal
committee work and providing
constituent services back in
their districts. They suffer from
a bit of political whiplash,
because while they recorded the
most bipartisan conviction vote
ever for a presidential
impeachment, Trump has not
shrunk from the limelight.
He is still considering another
run for president, and many
House Republicans remain loyal
to the former president as he
continues to spout false claims
about the 2020 election.
The warnings that the
managers sounded during last
year’s trial, said Rep. Joe Neguse
(D-Colo.), “are just as real and
serious today as they were a year
ago.”
Their team’s leader, Rep.
Jamie B. Raskin (D-Md.), is
continuing to pursue Trump
through his work on the House’s
select committee investigating
the attack on the Capitol. Rep.
Eric Swalwell (D-Calif.) is
pursuing a lawsuit against
Trump and some of his closest
allies for their role in inciting
the riot.
They are trying to focus on
advancing President Biden’s
legislative agenda, but one eye
often strays toward Trump and
his ongoing attacks on the 2020
results. The group emphasizes
there are no regrets, that it laidHouse impeachment leaders still seek accountability
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