A2 EZ RE THE WASHINGTON POST.SUNDAY, MARCH 27 , 2022
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TALK SHOWS
Guests to be interviewed Sunday on major television talk shows
9 a.m. FOX NEWS SUNDAY (WTTG)
U.S. Ambassador to NATO Julianne Smith; Sen. Rick Scott
(R-Fla.); Rep. Ro Khanna (D-Calif.).
9 a.m. STATE OF THE UNION (CNN)
Smith; Ukrainian Ambassador to the U.S. Oksana
Markarova; Sens. Cory Booker (D-N.J.), M ark R. Warner (D-
Va.) and James E. Risch (R-Idaho); Rep. Michael McCaul (R-
Tex.); José Andrés, founder of World Central Kitchen.
9 a.m. THIS WEEK (ABC, WJLA)
Sen. Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.).
9 a.m. WHITE HOUSE CHRONICLE (PBS, WETA)
Steve Odland, president and CEO of The Conference
Board, and Clinton Vince, chair of the U.S. Energy Practice
of Dentons, discuss the impact of Russia’s invasion of
Ukraine on the U.S. economy.
10 a.m. THIS IS AMERICA & THE WORLD (PBS, WETA)
Moldova’s Ambassador Eugen Caras discusses what the
Russian invasion of Ukraine means for Moldova, if
Moldova could be the next R ussian target, the country’s
support of hundreds of thousands of Ukrainian refugees
and the ambassador’s hopes for Moldova’s future.
10:30 a.m. MEET THE PRESS (NBC, WRC)
Markarova; Booker; Sen. Rob Portman (R-Ohio).
10:30 a.m. FACE THE NATION (CBS, WUSA)
Rep. Adam Kinzinger (R-Ill.); Marie Yovanovitch, former U.S.
ambassador to Ukraine.
voting site Oct. 26.
On the early-voting
application, Debra Meadows
signed a d ocument in which she
certi fied that she was eligible to
vote.
The document has pre-
checked eligibility statements,
with the first a d eclaration that
the voter has lived at least 30
days in the county. Before
signing the document, she
should have been “directed to
review these qualification and
eligibility statements on the
ATV [authorization to vote]
form or One-stop application”
by a poll worker, according to
the state election manual.
There is precedent in North
Carolina for seeking a severe
penalty for someone who put
false information on an early
voting application.
Latisha Bratcher Jones, a
North Carolina resident, in 2016
also filled out a o ne-stop
application, saying subsequently
that she believed she was able to
vote even though she had served
time in prison for felony assault
and was out on probation. A
section of the same form asked
whether someone who had
committed a felony had
completed their probation. A
grand jury in 2020 indicted her
for making a false affidavit
regarding the fact that she was
on probation — and also for
saying she resided in a different
county from the one in which
she voted.
North Carolina officials later
acknowledged that the state did
not have a standardized process
for informing people on
probation that they could not
vote. Indeed, documents
obtained by the Guardian in
2019 showed that state of ficials
concluded that Jones may
unintentionally have voted
illegally.
But a p rosecutor still brought
felony charges that could have
resulted in 19 months in prison.
Her attorney argued that the
probation prohibition stemmed
from a 19th-century law
designed to disenfranchise
Black voters.
Jones said in an interview
that she eventually settled the
case by entering an Alford plea
for a m isdemeanor crime —
related to the charge that she
resided in a different co unty
from the one in which she
voted.
“I did not know what I was
doing,” she said. “All I did was
try to vote.”
the date of the election,
according to the state’s board of
elections. Both Mark and Debra
Meadows listed a post office box
in a town about 70 miles away
from the mobile home, near
Asheville, as the mailing
address. Both voter registration
forms, filed Sept. 19, 2020, list
the move-in date as the next
day: Sept. 20.
Six months earlier, in March
2020, Meadows sold, for
$370,000, a h ouse in Sapphire,
N.C., meaning the couple no
longer had a place of residence
in the state. Instead, they lived
at the time in a c ondominium in
Old Town Alexandria in
Virginia. Debra Meadows used
the old Sapphire registration to
cast a ballot in a June primary
runoff election for someone for
whom she had done
fundraising.
Under North Carolina law, a
person ordinarily loses the right
to vote in a county if they had
moved out of th at county more
than 30 days before the election.
But Gerry Cohen, a N orth
Carolina elections official, said
that under a law in place until
this year, anyone eligible to vote
in the first primary could vote
in the runoff primary without
an updated registration.
Under the new law, a
person can no longer vote in a
runoff months after he or she
moves.
Under North Carolina law, a
“near relative,” such as a spouse,
may both request an absentee
ballot for a voter and also then
return that ballot. Mark
Meadows’s absentee ballot
request suggests th at Debra
Meadows submitted it on his
behalf Oct 1. The mobile home is
listed as his North Carolina
residential address, with the
form saying he had moved there
on Sept 20. The request was for
the ballot to be sent to the
Alexandria condo.
This form also notes that
“fraudulently or falsely
completing this form” i s a Class
I felony.
When Debra Meadows
traveled to Macon County to
cast her ballot, she took along
Mark Meadows’s absentee
ballot. The state’s electronic
records suggested this was the
case, and a North Carolina State
Board of Elections spokesperson
said the Macon County election
office confirmed that Mark
Meadows’s absentee-by-mail
ballot was returned in person by
his wife at a o ne-stop early
shows that in 2020, Debra
Meadows signed at lea st two
forms — a voter registration
form and the one-stop
application — t hat warned of
legal consequences if falsely
completed and signed.
Debra Meadows also is listed
as submitting an absentee ballot
request for her husband. The
signature on the form is
redacted, but Patrick Gannon, a
spokesman for the North
Carolina State Board of
Elections, said that the
signature says “Mark Meadows,”
even though the section of form
saying it was a r equest from
Debra Meadows also was filled
out. He said it was unclear why
that was done.
The statement by the North
Carolina State Bureau of
Investigation made no mention
of Debra Meadows, and officials
declined to say whether the
probe also would examine her
actions.
“We are early into the
investigation,” said Anjanette
Grube, the SBI’s public
information director. “As the
investigation continues,
information will be shared with
the prosecutor who will make a
determination as to whether
any additional persons could be
subject to the investigation.”
Ben Williamson, a spokesman
for Mark Meadows, declined to
comment. Debra Meadows did
not respond to emails sent to
her email address at Right
Women PAC, where she is
executive director, or to several
personal email addresses. She
also did not respond to a text
message.
The voter registration form
asks for a residential address —
“where you physically live” —
and is signed “under penalty of
perjury.” According to the New
Yorker ’s reporting, Meadows
and his wife have never lived
there — and Meadows himself
may have never set foot in the
house, which is four miles north
of the border with Georgia.
To register to vote in North
Carolina, citizens must have
lived in the county where they
are registering and have resided
there for at least 30 days before
“What we do know is a number
of times as we have mail-in
ballots, if there is not a c hain of
custody that goes from the voter
to the ballot box, mischief can
happen.”
— Then-White House Chief
of Staff Mark Meadows, in an
interview on ABC’s “This
Week,” July
26, 2020
Three
months after
this interview,
on Oct. 26,
Mark
Meadows’s
wife, Debra,
appeared at
the Macon
County
community building in
Franklin, N.C., and filled out a
one-stop voter application to
cast an early ballot in the 2020
presidential election. She also
dropped off an absentee ballot
that she had requested for her
husband, then the White House
chief of staff, an election board
official said.
On her one-stop application,
provided last week by the North
Carolina Board of Elections to
The Fact Checker, Debra
Meadows certified that she had
resided at a 1 4-by-62-foot
mountaintop mobile home for
at least 30 days — even though
she did not live there. At the top
of the form is a n otice that
“fraudulently or falsely
completing this form” i s a Class
I felony.
This form is the latest in a
string of revelations concerning
the former chief of staff — who
echoed President Donald
Trump’s false claims of election
fraud in 2020 — a nd his wife.
The New Yorker first reported
that Mark and Debra Meadows
submitted voter registration
forms that listed as their home a
mobile home with a r usted
metal roof that sold for
$105,000 in 2021, even though
they had never lived there.
North Carolina officials
announced March 17 that
Mark Meadows is under
investigation for potential voter
fraud.
The Fact Checker’s reporting
Debra Meadows looks to have filed false voter forms
The Fact
Checker
GLENN
KESSLER
JABIN BOTSFORD/THE WASHINGTON POST
White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and his wife, Debra Meadows, a t the White House on May 15, 2020. T o vote in North Carolina,
Debra Meadows certified that she had resided at a 14-by-62-foot mountaintop mobile home for at least 30 days — but she did not live there.
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