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BriefingThe war in UkraineH
e never wanteda war and he did not
prepare his country for one. He may
quote Winston Churchill, but he is no
Churchill. He wears khaki but he is leaving
the battle-plans to Ukraine’s generals.
“[The] people are leaders,” declares Volody-
myr Zelensky.
Speaking to The Economistin a govern-
ment building fortified with sandbags and
surrounded with tank traps, Mr Zelensky is
disarmingly authentic and humane. So
great is the real-life tragedy that has befall-
en his nation that there is no room for act-
ing. He talks of Ukraine’s need for weap-
ons, of his views of President Joe Biden and
his other Western backers, of what victory
would mean. But Mr Zelensky speaks most
powerfully about the inhumanity of the
Russian commanders ranged against him.
“The invaders do not even mourn their
own casualties,” he says. “This is some-
thing I do not understand. Some 15,
[Russian soldiers] have been killed in one
month...[Vladimir Putin] is throwing Rus-
sian soldiers like logs into a train’s furnace.
And, they are not even burying them...Theircorpsesareleftinthestreets.Insev-
eralcities,smallcities,oursoldierssayit’s
impossible to breathe because of the...-
stenchofrottingflesh.”
MrZelenskycomparesthepitilessness
ofMrPutin’swarmachinewiththecom-passionofthesoldiersandvolunteersde-
fendingUkrainiancities.“Ourfearlesssol-
diersare defendingMariupolnow...They
couldhavelefta longtimeago,buttheyare
notleavingthecity.”After 31 daysofbom-
bardmentandsiege,theyarestillfight-
ing—notbecauseMrZelenskyorderedit,
butbecausethey“saytheymuststayand
burythosekilledinactionandsavethe
livesofthosewounded...[And]longaspeo-
plearestillalive,wemustcontinuetopro-
tectthem.Andthisisthefundamentaldif-
ference between the way the opposing
sidesinthiswarseetheworld.”
MrPutinandMrZelenskyarebothna-
tiveRussian-speakers,buttheytalka dif-
ferentlanguageofpower.MrPutin’sworld,
wherelifeischeapandhistorybelongsto
greatmen,hasnoplaceforpityandno
roomforUkraine.“Idon’tthinkhevisual-
isesinhisownmindthesameUkrainewe
see,”MrZelenskysays.“HeseesUkraineas
a partofhisworld,hisworldview,butthat
doesn’tcorrespondwithwhat’shappened
overthelast 30 years.I don’tthinkPutin
hasbeen[in]a bunkerfortwoweeksorsix
months, but for more like two decades.”
To Mr Putin, strength means violence.
Anyone too squeamish to shed blood is
weak. That explains why the Russian army
is using the same methods in occupied ter-
ritory that it used in the Donbas region of
eastern Ukraine that Russia invaded using
proxy militias in 2014. “They are kidnap-
ping the mayors of our cities,” Mr Zelensky
says. “They killed some of them. Some ofKYIV
Ukraine’s president tells The EconomistwhyVladimirPutinmustbedefeatedConfidence from thebunker
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