Canal Boat — January 2018

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Why do we pay VAT on mooring rent?


Having the correct tool makes the job easier


Balancing your batteries


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This has probably been asked
many times but I’m puzzling over
it. Our county council charges us
VAT on the rent on our residential mooring.
We also pay Band A Council Tax. This is our
sole residence. Is it ethical to be charged
VAT on rent? Do council house tenants pay
Vat on their rent? Doesn’t seem right. We
are receiving no service of any kind from
the council, just a wharf to moor our boat to.
All utilities provided by utility companies for
which we pay separately.
STEPHEN

TONY REPLIES: The last thing you want is
well intentioned but poor advice from those
not involved in VAT details. I suggest that you
study this document https://www.gov.uk/government/
publications/vat-n otice-742-land-and-property/vat-notice-
742-land-and-property and then contact HMRC (VAT) to get
a written and definitive answer. Be aware that your mooring
provider probably has every right to require you to move if
you upset them.
My unqualified view based on what you tell us is
that a mooring in water is not land as described in that
document. Most, but not all marinas have to pay CRT an
annual access charge for connection to the system and this

attracts VAT. Online moorings not owned by CRT by and
large have to pay CRT to allow mooring in CRT’s water.
VAT is payable on that fee. It sounds to me as if your
county council pay CRT and pass the charge on to you in
your rent. Then there is the wayleave to allow you to tie up
to the council’s land plus fees to grant you access rights. I
do not think council houses (not that there are many these
days, most are tenants of housing associations) have
much to do with moorings.
I doubt many other boaters pay separately for their
services and moorings so should not give advice. I repeat


  • you do not need opinions other than those from HMRC
    or an accountant who specialises in VAT matters.


Q


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I have a question on narrowboat battery
placement. I have 4 calcium sealed lead
acid batteries on my narrowboat wired for
24v. Two are mounted/placed at floor /base plate level
and lie on one side at the rear end. The other pair lies
lengthways in relation to the boat and at floor level.
Bearing in mind that the boat leans and rocks slightly
in relation to body and general load placement, which
in your view would be the best orientation for the
batteries.
PHIL DEACON


TONY REPLIES: I am not too sure about
your question. My answer would be any way
as long as they are vertical with the top of
the battery at the top. Some sealed batteries say they
can even be mounted upside down but I would not
do that just in case a charging fault forced them into
excess gassing. Having them any other way up may


then allow them to vent acid rather than gas. Although
narrowboats seem to rock more than other craft the
actual angle of heel is far less than a sea boat would
suffer while a sailing yacht would heel even more.
Remember that the cells inside the battery are
totally sealed from each other and are probably less
than 2” X 6” in cross section. Any likely list or trim of
the boat can only move the liquid in each individual
cell so if the battery is set parallel with the centreline of
the boat there is only about 6” of surface to “pile up”
into the low end. Batteries set at right angles to the hull
centreline only have about 2” for the liquid to pile up
in. Even on the 6” distance I doubt the heel or trim will
make the liquid level more than about 6mm difference.
As modern wet batteries (sealed or open) seem to
claim “maintenance free” by dint of a larger electrolyte
reserve above the plates it should be impossible for
any normal inland heel or trim to expose the plates
unless excess charging voltage has driven water, as

gasses, out of the battery. Typically you are only talking
about a very few inches of heel across the boat, let’s
say 2”. So 2” on 7ft = about 0.2”. Simply not worth
worrying about
My concerns about your set-up relate to unbalanced
charging and discharging. Ideally I would want the two
links between the 12V batteries in series to be of equal
length and then the parallel links linking the pairs to
also be of equal length. I would want the main positive
feed to be on one end of the paralleled sets and the
negative at the opposite end. All cables being over
specified for their current and length.
As long as the interlinks are nice and thick on what
is effectively a two x 24 volt battery banks I don’t think
having the main pos. & neg. on the same end would
make a discernible difference. However it would if
more sets were added: the more batteries in parallel,
the more important having the leads at opposite ends
of the bank becomes.

I have a Technodrive gearbox fitted to my
Lombardini engine. The coupling came
away from the gearbox drive shaft, and
I had no propulsion. The nut holding the coupling
to the drive shaft had undone itself. I managed to
put it back together and tightened the nut as much
as I could. All was well until I put it in reverse then
suddenly no propulsion again and looking at the
engine the nut had come off again. Have I missed
something, should there be a cotter pin of some kind
to secure the nut?


TONY REPLIES: In general across
a range of gearboxes, those nuts are
usually self-locking nuts or in some cases
castellated nuts with a split pin. You will recognise
a castellated nut by the cut outs like a castle tower


and a self-locking nut by a nylon insert around
the top or a funny side slotted semi-domed top.
There may be some form of washer under the nut
or even two, one being a spring or toothed washer
designed to stop the nut undoing. Best search the
bilge/drip tray to make sure they were not used
originally. It might be that the nut had been loose for
a very long time so the splines in the coupling and
on the shaft are worn. If this is so then each time
you reverse direction the nut and shaft will start to
revolve a fraction before the slack is taken up and
the coupling moves. This will potentially help loosen
the nut. However I suspect this is a hydraulic box
and as such without the engine running you cannot
put it in gear. This means that without a special tool
you will not be able to stop the coupling turning to
get the nut tight enough. On a larger PRM hydraulic

box the torque is 340Nm. This is exceptionally tight
so you will need a long “spanner” to get that degree
of tightness and a way of preventing the coupling
turning. The proper tool is called a Counter Holding
Tool that fits the holes in the coupling so you can
prevent it turning while you tighten the nut – Google
Counter Holding Tool for images so you know what
they look like.
I doubt you will easily get access to one of those
so try either a very large Stilson pipe wrench on the
coupling (but remember to file off any burrs they
produce) or sometimes two bolts and nuts in two
of the coupling holes with a large steel bar wedged
between them to stop the coupling turning while
you tighten the nut will also work. Ideally use a
torque wrench set to whatever Technodrive say it
should be. Otherwise as tight as you can.

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