By Anshul DhAmijA
AirAsia Group CEO Tony Fernandes on making money
in the domestic market and on unifying AirAsia
‘I am Not in a Rush
to Fly International
Out of India’
T
ony Fernandes, group CEO
of Asia’s largest low-cost
carrier AirAsia, has set his
sights on integrating all of
the airline’s operations in Southeast
Asia into one holding company and
creating a single airline entity that
would represent the Association of
Southeast Asian Nations (Asean)
region. “If you look at it, we are
probably the most successful Asean
brand,” Fernandes, 53, says in an
exclusive interview to Forbes India on
the sidelines of the 52nd International
Paris Air Show at Le Bourget. At
present, the different entities of
the AirAsia Group include AirAsia
Berhad (Malaysia), AirAsia Indonesia,
Thai AirAsia, Philippines AirAsia,
AirAsia X, Indonesia AirAsia X and
Thai AirAsia X. Outside of the Asean
countries, there is AirAsia Japan and
AirAsia India, which, since its start
in 2013, has had a bumpy ride. “India
is a country I don’t want to screw up
[in]! I want to do it right,” Fernandes
says, going on to talk about AirAsia
India’s shift in strategy: From eyeing
international operations to focusing on
the domestic market. Edited excerpts:
Q Can you elaborate on your
plans of unifying AirAsia,
particularly your Southeast Asia
operations, into one airline?
Yes, I’m trying to unify AirAsia into
one airline—a unique corporate
structure within Asean (comprising
Brunei, Cambodia, Indonesia, Laos,
Malaysia, Myanmar, Philippines,
Singapore, Thailand and Vietnam).
Asean has approximately 700 million
people and we [AirAsia] have created
an Asean tourism market that was
not there before. We are pushing
Asean governments, saying we
want to invest more in the region.
What we would like to do is create one
holding company that would own 100
percent of all our airline companies
operating in Asean countries. This
would allow us to invest more,
reduce costs and enable us to be
much more efficient. And there is no
reason why this holding company
cannot be listed in all the Asean
markets. Hopefully, in the future,
there will be an Asean stock market.
Part one of my plan is to list our
Philippines and Indonesia companies,
which will happen soon. [The
Malaysia and Thailand entities are
already listed]. If it were left to me, and
I don’t run countries, I would create an
Asean holding company in two weeks!
Q In recent months, you have
gone on record to say that you are
“driving AirAsia to be a digital
airline”. How is this shaping up?
We are doing a lot of fintech joint
ventures, which is also part of my
one AirAsia plan. We are going to
remove cash [transactions] off the
plane soon with our own version
of Alipay and PayPal. We will also
have our own version [a digital
platform] for money transfers.
We are working with Huawei on
smart airports. I’m in favour of getting
rid of check-in counters and looking
at self-boarding. We are working
on facial recognition, whereby
passengers can board an aircraft
using their face. And that will cover
people with plastic surgery as well!
The worst experiences in flying
are the airports, security and
immigration—it’s a pain! We want
visas to be electronic as opposed to
going and standing in a queue. Surely,
with all the data we have, we more
or less know whether someone is a
safe traveller or not. We are trying to
create a trusted traveller programme
and are working with Chinese,
American and Australian companies
to help us in this endeavour.
Q Your India operations have
been plagued by controversy and
slow growth. What went wrong?
Many airlines have come, made a lot
of noise in India and disappeared.
It’s all about doing it properly and
“The level of
trying to get rid of
us is much worse
here in India.”
Interview
68 | forbes india August 4, 2017