D: Why is the message you want to communicate not received by others?
K: We are talking of the quality of communication and not of what you
communicate. When that quality is not there, you cannot communicate.
A: There is the communication of words, there is the communication of meaning
and there is a communication that is beyond word and meaning.
F: The human race has developed certain instruments to take in messages
through word and meaning, but they have no instruments to take in or to contact
that which is beyond word and meaning. After all, radio and television have
special instruments to receive. Do we have special instruments to receive?
D: The problem of communication arises only when the message is distorted or
incomplete.
K: It is also in the meaning. You tell me something, and I twist it.
F: No. You tell me something. I listen to it with the instrument I have, and then
translate it according to the instrument I have. There is no question of twisting it.
We find that the reception of what you have to say remains at a lower
wavelength. There is no question of twisting. What you say just does not seem to
penetrate. It has nothing to do with the message.
P: Either the instruments have not been tuned or they are not there. Krishnaji,
you can say what you will, but until the instruments are there, the message will
not be received. Is the question one of the instruments being tuned right or of
new instruments coming into being? That is the essential question.
K: A said that when we began contacting each other, there was a certain
resistance, a certain intellectual objection to what was said. Now, he says, he has
put all that aside, and he listens. Why should there have been resistance in the
beginning?
A: We met after a gap of nine to ten years. There was conditioning—social,
political, ideological; there was also the effort to understand you in terms of that
conditioning.
K: P asks if there is a need for tuning the instrument.
P: Suppose you take a child and carefully remove it from all conditioning, it will
still react, because conditioning is the instrument for transferring heritage. The
instruments I have operate in a particular way; they are in themselves incapable
of receiving in any other way but the known way.