Bloomberg Businessweek Europe - 05.08.2019

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THE BOTTOM LINE Mexico’s president has pledged to root out
corruption and moved to stop the flow of migrants through the
country, but he still faces calls for more spending and more growth.

a Republican, and myself, I have a progressive
political stance with a social dimension, a national-
ist position, I think we can understand each other.
We’ve talked three, four times on the phone. The
most complicated issue was this recent topic, the
tariff threat. And we reached an agreement.
Can we look at the Mexican economy? You were hop-
ing for it to grow at 4%. This week, there were worries
you may go into recession. Do you think Mexico will
go into recession this year?
No, no. We’re doing fine. The economy is not
growing as we would want it to, but on the other
hand, we have other indicators that show that
the economy is fine. For instance, the peso has
strengthened. Let me clarify this: I mentioned a
4% average in my six-year term, not 4% in a year’s
time. Forecasters may say, “How can you go from
2% to 4% in Mexico?” Well, before the neoliberal
period, for 50 years since the Mexican Revolution,
we grew at 5% or 6% a year with no devaluation and
no inflation. The Mexican miracle in the economy—
that’s what we want.
But can you have a Mexican miracle with interest
rates at 8.25%? I know you have been good at not
interfering in the central bank, but do you think that
interest rates are too high?
Yes, but look, I’m respectful of the autonomy
of the central bank. They’re more cautious about
inflation. That’s not a bad thing. But it’s import-
ant to lower rates to kick-start the economy. This
is an issue that we are leaving for the central bank
to decide, because we trust we’ll deliver not only
growth, but also development. We want to create
new paradigms. Growth creates wealth but doesn’t
necessarily distribute wealth. Development is grow-
ing and distributing wealth.
When most people from the Left come to power, they
tend to spend money, but you have followed policies of
austerity. Some of your critics say you care too much
about the surplus and that is one reason why the econ-
omy is not growing. Do you accept that?
Well, that’s the new paradigm. The first problem
of Mexico is corruption—I can tell you that today,
no corruption is tolerated.
On the Left, people think that austerity is fir-
ing people. One time, I was talking to the Labour
leader, Mr. Jeremy Corbyn of the United Kingdom,
my friend. He said, “How can you talk about auster-
ity? I don’t understand.” Austerity for us Mexicans,
however, is inspired by President Benito Juárez, who
used to say that public officials had to learn to live
in the middle, without any luxuries. But a lot was
being spent in supporting the government. Former
presidents of Mexico had pensions that amounted
to more than any former president receives in any

part of the world. The Mexican president was being
protected by 8,000 security guards of the presiden-
tial security detail, who made more than any sol-
diers. All this was canceled. That’s austerity.
This interview has been condensed and edited for
clarity. López Obrador’s answers have been trans-
lated from Spanish.
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