30 Business Spotlight 3/2020 INTERCULTURAL COMMUNICATION
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INTERVIEW
“A happy, healthly workforce will be more productive”
ANDREW BARNES is both the founder
and chief executive of Perpetual Guardi
an, an estate planning company. His em
ployees trialled working four days a week
instead of five and found that stress
levels went down, productivity went up
and there was a much better worklife
balance. Born in the UK, 60yearold
Barnes has lived in New Zealand for dec
ades and is convinced that his fourday
week initiative is the future of work.
How did you get interested in the four-day week?
I read some research that British offices were productive for only
two and half hours a day. I questioned why that might be. I thought
about inefficiencies: people attending meetings they didn’t need to
attend, disruptions in the workplace, such as mobile phones and the
internet. I did a sixweek trial, which became eight weeks, where I
gave my staff a day off to see if they could be as productive in four
normal working days, rather than the usual five. I just wanted to see
if it was possible. University researchers monitored the trial and it
was successful. After that, we started to go on this broader journey,
arguing that the fourday week is a solution for today’s working
environment.
Were you surprised by the results?
Intuitively, it’s not a big step into the unknown to understand that
a happy, healthy, engaged and enthusiastic workforce will be more
productive. The question was whether the additional pressure of
trying to compress work into four days rather than five would create
additional stress.
Why is a four-day week more productive?
Imagine a typical day: people go to the office, sit down, have a cup
of coffee and a chat, go on the internet and do some work. Then
they get disturbed. One study found that, on average, you get
disturbed in the office once every 11 minutes, and then it takes you
22 minutes to get back to being productive. All we are saying to staff
is: “Do things differently.” The best example of this is a Microsoft
trial in Japan. They cut down meetings to half an hour, with no
more than five people in a meeting. It generated an improvement
in productivity of around 40 per cent. All they did was get rid of
unproductive downtime within the working day.
What was the impact of the trial on your business?
Firstly, we have a “100–80–100 rule”: 100 per cent pay, you only
work 80 per cent of the time and we get 100 per cent productivity.
I am not doing this as a bleedingheart liberal. I own my own
business. My approach was to tackle this from a business
perspective. I am saying this to all businesses: just try it. If you
do a trial, what’s the worst that can happen? You’ll get better
engagement scores from your staff. The best thing that can happen
is that you get a massive improvement in productivity. And if I’m
wrong, you cancel the trial and you go back to working five days a
week. Secondly, your staff turnover drops and your ability to attract
talent improves. One in four people in your workforce at any point
in time has a stress or mentalhealth issue. But if you give them
additional time off, you’ll find that their productivity improves and
sick days go down.
What about the environmental impact?
With the fourday week, you take 20 per cent of cars off the road
during the week. If you can get a free flow of traffic, there is an
economic benefit. In Auckland, this would add two per cent to its
economy. You also get a drop in emissions. So, by reducing cars on
the road, you reduce congestion and have an impact on climate
change.
Innovator: Andrew Barnes
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