Hellenistic Philosophy Introductory

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spmt. When he received news of a shipwreck and heard that all his
possessions had been lost with the ship, Zeno, the head of our school,
said "fortune bids me to follow philosophy bearing a lighter load".


Seneca, Letters on Ethics 121.1-24 [11-107]



  1. I can see that you will quarrel when I have expounded for you
    today's theme, which we have already spent quite some time with; yet
    again you will cry out, "what does this have to do with ethics?" Exclaim
    away, until I can, first, give you the names of others to quarrel with,
    Posidonius and Archidemus ...

  2. Meanwhile let me examine some questions which seem to be a bit
    too far removed [from your practical concerns]. We were asking whether
    all animals had an awareness of their own constitution. The best evidence
    that this is so was that they move their limbs in a fitting and efficient
    manner, as though they had been trained to do so; each animal has a
    nimble mastery of his various parts. A craftsman handles his tools with
    ease; a helmsman controls the rudder with skill; and a painter can very
    quickly apply the many and varied colours which he sets out on his
    palette for the purpose of capturing a likeness, and moves back and forth
    between the hot wax and the canvas with a ready hand and eye. In the
    same way an animal is expeditious in the use of himself. 6. We often
    admire skilled dancers because their hands are capable of expressing all
    kinds of objects and emotions and their gestures are responsive to the
    rapidly uttered words. What art gives to these men, nature provides to
    the animals. They do this as soon as they are born; they come into this
    world with this knowledge; they are born with a sound training.

  3. "And so," he says, "animals move their parts in a fitting manner
    because if they moved them any differently they would feel pain. Thus,
    on your theory, they are forced [to act as they do] and it is fear which
    leads them to correct action, not choice." This is false; for things which
    are driven by necessity are slow; nimbleness belongs to those who move
    of their own free will. Far from it being fear of pain which drives them
    to this [behaviour], they even strive for their natural motions when pain
    discourages them. 8. Consider a baby who is practicing standing up and
    learning how to walk; as soon as he begins to try his strength he falls
    and, in tears, gets up again and again until despite the pain he trains
    himself to the [function] demanded by his nature. Some animals, who
    have hard shells, can be turned over on their backs and they will strain
    and push with their feet and twist themselves for a long time, until they
    get back in their [proper] posture. Yet the turtle feels no pain when
    on his back; he is uneasy, nevertheless, because he desires his natural

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