Hellenistic Philosophy Introductory

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non-evident but also appears; the argument, however, is about signs that
are hypothesized as non-evident, and yet are found to be appearances,
according to the turning around of the argument.



  1. If, therefore, neither all signs are appearances nor all non-evident,
    nor are some appearances and some non-evident, and there are no other
    alternatives, as they themselves say, the things called signs will not exist.

  2. These few, out of the many [available arguments] will be sufficient
    for the present purpose of suggesting the non-existence of the indicative
    sign. Next, we shall set forth suggestions that a sign exists, so that we
    may display the equal force of the opposing arguments.
    Either, then, the utterances used against the sign signify something
    or nothing. If they are without significance, how could they dislodge the
    existence of the sign? If they signify something, a sign exists. 131. Further,
    either the arguments against the sign are demonstrative or not. But if
    they are not demonstrative, they will not demonstrate that the sign does
    not exist. If they are demonstrative, since the demonstration is a kind of
    sign, revealing the conclusion, it will be a sign. Hence, one also propounds
    this sort of argument. If a sign exists, a sign exists; and if a sign does
    not exist, a sign exists. (For the non-existence of a sign is shown by
    demonstration, which is indeed a sign, as has been shown.) But a sign
    exists or a sign does not exist. So, a sign exists. 132. But the following
    argument is set against this one. If a sign does not exist, a sign does not
    exist; and if a sign is what the dogmatists say it is, a sign does not exist.
    For the sign, the subject of the present argument, has been found to be
    non-existent according to its conception and as it is said to be relative
    and revelatory of that which is signified, as we have shown. 133. Either
    sign exists or it does not; therefore, sign does not exist.
    And regarding the utterances about the sign, let the dogmatists them-
    selves reply to us whether they signify something or signify nothing. For
    if they signify nothing, the existence of the sign is not confirmed. But
    if they signify something, that which is signified will follow, namely, that
    a sign exists, which entails that sign does exist, as we have suggested,
    on the basis of the reversal of the argument.
    These, then, being the plausible arguments brought forth concerning
    the existence and non-existence of the sign, we should say that sign no
    more exists than not.


Sextus PH 2.134-159 [III-41]


Ch. xii On Demonstration



  1. It is clear then from these considerations that demonstration too
    is not a matter agreed upon. For if we suspend judgement regarding the

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