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prod to writing. It’s liberating not to be
writing about oneself and to have a clear
directive – “This is what the song has to
say and this is what the character is feel-
ing” – to take a character’s point of view.
I may not agree with their point of view,
but we can all empathise with others’
drives and feelings, even if we disagree
with how they respond to those psycho-
logical forces. One musical was about
former Philippines First Lady Imelda
Marcos. She was born on the poorer side
of a powerful and well-connected family,
and felt excluded from Filipino “society”
as a result. Much of what drove her and
fired her ambition was this pain at being
excluded and rejected. Well, we all know
that feeling, we have all had it. But we all
don’t get to play it out on a world stage.
I got to write songs that are sentimen-
tal or heartbreaking for musicals that I
would never write for myself. I wrote to
[Bowie] as I was writing and told him
how exciting and liberating I thought the
experience was. But to be clear, I am not
a musical-theatre person. I don’t know all
the conventions and hate the typical sing-
ing style, but I could see that having songs
help tell an emotional story, well, who
knows? There might be a new way to do
that other than [using] the musical-theatre
conventions, which are pretty corny.
K: Your 2012 book How Music
Works said “this is not an auto-
biographical account of my life
as a singer and musician”. Why
did you write it the way you did?
DB: There are a lot of “behind
the music” rock-star bios out
there – a few of them were even
written by the artists themselves.
We don’t need another one of
those, and besides, for me it’s
more interesting to wonder in
a more general way why music sounds
the way it does – not just my music, but
lots of music. As I began accumulating
chapters, I realised it had a theme – con-
text matters. My hope is that it might be
enjoyable and useful even for people who
don’t know me or care about my music.
K: What is the best book you’ve read this
year?
DB: Other Minds – the book about octopi, a
different kind of intelligence.
K: You’ve also written about your love of
cycling. Will you be bringing a bicycle to
New Zealand?
DB: That depends on the freight situation,
but I sure hope to be able to ride around
Auckland, Wellington and Christchurch.
K: And can I invite you to continue our
African food scouting tradition and hunt
down some Ethiopian while on tour? I
know of two spots in Wellington ...
DB: Ha ha, we had this conversation – I’ll
be happy to try Wellington Ethiopian, but
might opt for local seafood first!
K: I want a David Byrne mixtape on this
tour, please. Swapsies?
DB: Of course. FYI, I do a monthly stream-
ing radio playlist. Each one is about two
hours long and they vary in theme from
month to month. My website has it, as do
SoundCloud and streaming services. l
David Byrne’s American Utopia tour
(supported by Kimbra) is at TSB Arena,
Wellington (sold out) November 13; Horncastle
Arena, Christchurch, November 15; Spark
Arena Auckland, November 17.
Five days after David
Byrne’s final New Zea-
land show, Auckland’s
Silo Theatre opens its
season of live perfor-
mances of Here Lies
Love, his 2010 concept
album with Fatboy Slim
inspired by the extrava-
gant life of Imelda Marcos, which
originally featured 22 guest vocalists.
Silo’s singing cast will be a quintet
and include Jennifer Ward-Lealand
and Ria Hall. Director Sophie Roberts
says having Byrne in town was pure
coincidence.
What are the chances that Byrne would be
in the country so close to your show?
We programmed Here Lies Love more
than a year ago so we had no idea he
was coming to Auckland back then.
I’m a firm believer that there are no
coincidences, though, so I think this
is the universe telling us that David
is meant to come and hang out with
us in rehearsal while he’s here. Our
musical director, Robin Kelly, and I have
discussed a dream scenario where we
all become best friends and he stays
for our opening night to have a hoon
on guitar. I say dream but I’m actu-
ally 100% serious about making this a
reality.
Will you and the cast be attending his
concert?
Absolutely! It’s a pretty special oppor-
tunity for our team while we are in the
process of bringing our version of his
work to life. He’s a true theatre artist in
his approach to live performance so I
have no doubt it will be really inspiring
for us.
So, given it’s about Imelda Marcos, is most
of the show’s production budget being
spent on shoes?
We haven’t got to the shoes yet. At
the moment the design team and I are
dreaming up how to make Q Theatre
feel like the inside of a disco ball at the
best party ever.
Here Lies Love, Q Theatre, Auckland,
November 22-December 8.
BYRNING
DOWN
THE HOUSE
Sophie Roberts