Hellenistic Philosophy Introductory

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certain hidden and, as it were, arcane facts, while the latter indicates
things which are evident and out in the open. Moreover, since there is
nothing left if you deprive man of his sense-perception, it is necessary
that nature herself judge what is natural and what is unnatural. And
what does nature perceive or judge, with reference to what does she
decide to pursue or avoid something, except pleasure and pain?



  1. There are, however, some members of our school [Epicureans]
    who want to teach a more subtle form of this doctrine, and they say that
    it is not sufficient to let sense-perception judge what is good and what
    is bad, but that the intellect and reason can also understand that pleasure
    by itself is worth pursuing for its own sake and that pain by itself is to
    be avoided for its own sake. And so they say that we have this conception,
    which is, as it were, naturally implanted in our souls, and that as a result
    of this we perceive that the one is to be pursued and the other to be
    rejected. But there are other Epicureans too, men with whom I agree,
    who do not think it right for us to be too sure of our case, since so many
    philosophers say so much about why pleasure ought not to be counted
    as a good thing and pain ought not to be counted as a bad thing; they
    think that one must argue and debate with great care, and employ well
    researched lines of argument in the dispute about pleasure and pain.

  2. But so that you will see the origin of the mistake made by those
    who attack pleasure and praise pain, I shall open up the whole theory
    and explain exactly what was said by that discoverer of the truth [Epicu-
    rus], who was a kind of architect of the happy life. No one rejects or
    dislikes or avoids pleasure itself just because it is pleasure, but rather
    because those who do not know how to pursue pleasure rationally meet
    with great pains as a result. Nor again is there anyone who loves, pursues,
    and wants to acquire pain just because it is pain, but rather because
    sometimes circumstances of such a nature occur that he can pursue some
    great pleasure by means of effort and pain. To cite a minor instance:
    who among us undertakes any demanding regimen of physical training
    except in order to get some sort of benefit from it? Who, moreover, could
    justifiably criticize either a man who wished to have the sort of pleasure
    which is followed by no pains or a man who avoids a pain which serves
    to produce no pleasure?

  3. But we do attack and indeed find most worthy of justified hatred
    those who are seduced and corrupted by the allures of present pleasures
    and, being blinded by desire, do not foresee the pains and troubles which
    they are bound to incur; similarly to blame are those who abandon their
    duties because of moral weakness, i.e., a tendency to avoid efforts and
    pains. The distinction here is simple and clear enough. For at a moment
    of free time, when we have an unrestricted opportunity to select and


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