Tradition and Revolution Dialogues with J. Krishnamurti

(Nora) #1

F: Now I want to ask something. Is there such a thing as ‘co-experience’ or a
‘co-state’?


K: There is no such thing as ‘co-experience’ when there is experiencing.


F: I am talking about communication. Communication implies two.


K: Up to a point.


F: And ‘co-experience’?


K: When you and I are experiencing the sunset or sex, there is no two.


F: The instruments are two.


K: Of course.


F: The perceiver is not there.


A: Are these valid questions with regard to what we have talked of just now?


K: About what?


A: No conclusion, and them moving together. Are there any valid questions in
that?


K: But we have not gone beyond the fact of coming to a conclusion. Take a little
more time over that; we are slurring over it.


F: I see that there is also the threat to the image.


K: I am committed to a certain activity and I am going to translate, in terms of
my activity, whatever you say. I say that I have understood you, but I am going
to translate what I have understood in terms of my activity. I am committed.


P: If there is a frontal attack on my image, and you ask me whether I have an
image of myself, I would say: Of course I have an image; but it is a peripheral
thing. There can be a stripping, a denudation, a breaking of the image without a
confrontation with the image. You can strip, denude the image, but do not ask me
a frontal question about the image.


K: I want to go a little deeper into this image-making.


P: Every movement of thought is adding to the image, and every negation is a
denudation of the image.

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