K: The conclusion or the idea that a state can be experienced by two is wrong.
A: That is correct.
K: It can never be experienced. What does that mean? Any man who says, ‘I
have experienced’, has not experienced. Right, sir? You see how extraordinarily
subtle it is. When you and I are looking at the sunset, there is only the sunset. I
believe it is the same with sex. It is the same with two people who are at the
height of anger; there are no two people. They do not say: We are experiencing
anger.
F: What about the registering that goes on in the brain?
K: What is that? Memory?
F: In the present there is no memory.
K: But it acts in the present.
F: The memory is not yet created.
K: Do not theorize. Watch. You and I see the sunset. When it is in front of us,
both of us see it, both of us are silent because it is glorious. We do not stop all
movement. All movement stops. There are no two people there.
F: Are there not two separate ‘I-consciousnesses’?
K: Both of us experience the sunset in its fullness; you and I do not talk about
experiencing at that minute.
P: I would like to ask one question of you now, sir, because I feel it is important
that your mind is also open to us. You took us through the state of the verbal;
your mind was registering, and at some point the verbal ceased.
K: That means you and I were not forming any image.
P: Yes. At any moment of time, was there in you a registration of this?
K: I do not quite follow.
P: You moved in thought. You went through the whole process of
communication through word, meaning, analysis. The point of flexibility came,
and there was an ending of the analysis. Before the next analysis started, there
was a gap. Has the brain any registration at all in this gap?
K: No.