7 March 2020 | New Scientist | 31
Podcast
The Dream – Season 2
Jane Marie and Dann Gallucci
WELLNESS is a booming industry
encompassing everything from
fitness and personal care to crystals
meant to interact with a person’s
“energy field”.
Season 2 of podcast The Dream
attempts to separate science from
pseudoscience by delving into the
scams, the regulation of vitamins
and supplements, and why people
find wellness so compelling.
Season 1 took a similar approach
in addressing the predatory nature
of multi-level marketing schemes.
Many of the products and
services mentioned in the new
season are straightforward enough
to debunk. Herbal sex supplements
that supposedly mimic Viagra
actually have Viagra in them.
An intra-vaginal jade egg,
purported to balance hormones,
led to the lifestyle brand Goop
being fined $145,000 for making
unsubstantiated claims. And, while
taking adaptogens — herbs and
other plants that theoretically adapt
to the needs of the body — probably
won’t do anything to harm you,
there isn’t much evidence to show
they will help either.
As producer Jane Marie narrates
with collaborator Dann Gallucci,
her cynicism is palpable, even
though she has tried out many
wellness “treatments” for herself.
Each episode explores a different
aspect of the industry, including
how inaccurate claims persist in
part because of a lack of oversight.
For example, in the US, although
the Food and Drug Administration
monitors herbs and supplements,
manufacturers don’t need FDA
approval before going to market.
Marketers also don’t have to explain
how supplements can interfere
with prescribed medications.
At times, the podcast can be
a little clunky, such as when
Marie says she is going to get ear
seeds – seeds that are placed on
specific parts of the ear, using
similar principles to acupuncture –
and Gallucci responds in a very
scripted way: “What are ear seeds?”.
But what The Dream does
particularly well is offer empathy.
Probably most of us, at some point,
have had concerns about health
or ageing. The shady parts of
the wellness industry capitalise
on these and on a distrust of the
medical establishment among
people who haven’t always been
treated well by it.
In the opening episode, for
example, Marie interviews
hercousin, whose painful
endometriosis was virtually ignored
by doctors — which raises the
question of why wouldn’t someone,
if their healthcare professional
won’t treat them with medication
or another intervention, try
out essential oils like Marie’s
cousin did? Or why wouldn’t
someone for whom conventional
antidepressants were unsuccessful
look for alternatives?
Indeed, discussion of health
and wellness can be fraught with
our personal opinions or biases.
Marie addresses this by bringing
on expert guests, including a
theoretical physicist (interviewed
because many wellness products
use words like “quantum”), a science
journalist and vitamin researcher,
and an obstetrician-gynaecologist,
to keep the conversation out of the
realm of just anecdote.
In pushing past her own
dismissiveness, Marie creates a
narrative that incorporates lived
experiences and actual science. It
is this model of inquiry — accessible
to both sceptics and believers — that
keeps listeners tuning in. ❚
US firms don’t have to state
how supplements can
interfere with medications
Wendy J. Fox is a writer based in
Colorado. Her latest book is If the
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Why people try wellness
In debunking the alternative health industry, The Dream offers
plenty of empathy for those caught up in it, finds Wendy J. Fox
“ The shady parts of
the wellness industry
capitalise on our
concerns about
health or ageing”
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