(particularly the (agency name) schools and did exchange tours with agency name) and the (agency
namein the (agency name) but for me they were very ) here. Those were not desirable jobs usually
interesting and they turned out to be very valuable because obviously learning about the other (agency
nameswith this whole jo) and learning about how they were wrestling intness thing was of value. Quite
frankly, jointness and interagency process are the same thing. I don’t mean to say that, I actually give
talks on this, I don’t mean to say that the best process for the interagency is to adopt Goldwater-
Nichols (a law psure that’s possible or we’d want to do it anyway. assed by Congress) because I’m not
But the elements of learning that you go through to become an accomplished joint officer – learning
about other cultures, learning about the other missions, learning about the other process, learning
to accept differing opinions and ... and a different process in the interest of group unity, unity of effort
... those are the same qualities that you need when you have state, local, city, Federal, private sector
trying to figurIt’s the same thing. If you can get people to a e out how to get the power back on.
common objective and goal, you can be successful. How you get them to common goals and objectives
simplistically you don’t beat them over the head with it, you have to find some common ground.
And I learned that in my joint tours, and that by itself was enormously broadening or enormously
expansive in how you look at things ... (pause) I had two years of education at (school name5 second )
and five years of actual experienenvironment out of 29 year career which was pretty ce in that
amazing actually (laugh). Certainly the most valuable experience that I carried into my civilian
career was the joint assignments and the education
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